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Quarter 1

Q1 2026 Earnings Call — May 6, 2026

Kristen Owen (Oppenheimer): Hi, good morning, and thank you for the question. Nice start to the year, guys. It sounds like things are kind of all rolling in the same direction. You lifted your guidance for ACO and field systems. You beat by seven cents. You lifted the guide by four. So I'm just kind of wondering what are the back half scenarios or how should we think about the level of conservatism that you're baking into the guide given the strong start to the year?

Phil (Executive): So let me start with we're in line with our previous guide from earlier this year. Actually, in fact, we raised the guide for the year, and we're on track to be – to be at or ahead of our 3-4-30 model that we put out in Investor Day. I'd say we have the most visibility we've ever had at the company level with the transformation and the ARR mix. But we do have less visibility on the hardware business. And in light of the conflict we see in the Middle East and uncertainty around tariff policies, along with upper comps in the back half, we've incorporated those puts and takes into our guide. And we'll update you in a few months as we get more visibility on the ARR.

That's very helpful. And then I wanted to dive into some of the consumption model changes that you talked about, Rob, in your prepared remarks. You know, I'm hoping to understand any early indications of how your customers are utilizing tokens for the AI tools that are currently embedded in your products. Just any sort of qualitative or quantitative data that you can provide on utilization trends or where you're seeing tokens being purchased. How are those early learnings informing your commercialization of AI across the platform? Thank you.

Rob (Executive): Good morning, Kristen. I'll start by discreetly answering the token question. Quantitatively, what we can see is that the usage is growing and that almost all of those credits that are associated with those named user licenses are being consumed. And that's good because it tells us they're actually being used. Qualitatively, what I really like are the learnings we're getting from doing this because the development, the deployment, and the monetization motions are all different. Now, if we up-level the conversation, I think the real conversation to have is around the commercialization of AI across the platform because the tokens themselves are a tactic of commercialization. And, of course, we're going to expect to see more of them going forward, and we're building the capabilities in order to do that. But at the same time, we'll deploy many additional commercial tactics.

So I'll give you two examples. First one was discrete consumption and transactions. So if you take autonomous procurement and autonomous quotation within transportation, I think that's a great example of that because what we're monetizing through those particular product motions is happening at a higher rate than the traditional non-AI transactions capabilities that we have. And we can charge more because we're demonstrating a higher ROI over our customers when we do that. A second example is we'll create monetization through the good, better, best product motions where we put AI into those better and best upsell motions. And I highlighted four examples. I think it was on slide five of the presentation that give examples of this. And one of those examples would be automated feature extraction out of the large point clouds that we deliver to our customers. So in that example, that automation of the feature extraction, which turns hours and days of work into minutes of work, we're monetizing that through that better and the best product sets that we deliver to our customers. And in fact, in that example, we're actually also enabling our customers to create their own proprietary data sets for their own unique work on feature extraction. So many different motions and tactics that we'll apply to achieve and reach that vision of commercializing the value that we're delivering to our customers through AI.

Rob Wertheimer (Mellius Research): Thank you. I had two questions on trend at ACO and then on monetization along the line to what you were just talking about. On trend line, obviously ARR growth was strong. The comp on core is a little bit abnormal. And so I wonder if you could just talk about revenue trends of the quarter, just any sense of that. And then as we go through the year, there are questions on a competitor call yesterday about whether construction is improving or not. There's lots of mixed indicators. I wonder if you might weigh in there.

Phil (Executive): Let me start as we think about the year and the guide for ACO. So let me start with connecting this to some numbers. As I look at the net new ARR, that is growing and has grown in Q1, and we expect that to continue to grow throughout the year. Historically, we also benefited a little bit from a tailwind due to the conversion uplifts. So we moved from maintenance and support into subscriptions. There was a bit of an uplift. So if I look over history, again, that was a bit of a tailwind. Still a small amount of that left, but the impact is a bit less. But the Q1 results in the full-year guide are fully in line with our expectations and the model we put out in Investor Day with that mid-teens ARR growth and mid-teens revenue growth. So, again, I think we're in line with the prior guide and in line with our multi-year model that we put out there.

Perfect. And then, Rob, you were just touching on this, but I'm just thinking about how you monetize some of the capabilities you're bringing. You're maybe passing through tokens. I don't know if there's a margin there, but maybe you're hoping to win new logos from competitors, new people entering an ecosystem because the capabilities are bigger and easier. I wonder if you could just talk about what you see as the biggest opportunities as your capabilities expand.

Rob (Executive): The frame I have on Scrum on monetization starts with value delivery and value capture. So the extent to which we're creating positive outcomes and positive ROI for our customers, we backwards integrate from that into then what would be the fair share for our value capture out of that. So we're mostly focused on the AI capabilities we can create for ourselves on leveraging the Trimble platform and the unique data set and scope and breadth and depth that we have globally. In doing so, we believe, yes, that we can capture new addressable market. We think we can take market share over time. I mentioned three different types of motions, monetization motions in answering that last question. Another one would be if you think about the announcement we made with SketchUp and Claude a few days ago and the integration there is, you know, another motion we see where we can monetize is by creating new users, creating new customers, expanding that addressable market with Claude users who weren't already SketchUp users. So by creating models out of Claude, you need to bring those into a SketchUp model to be able to do more with that.

So we'll watch that to see if that's another avenue by which we can gain new customers. So we see opportunities to increase the size of the addressable market. We see opportunities to monetize through our fair share capture of the value of an ROI that we deliver to our customers. And we'll see over time how that plays out into market share.

Jason Salino (KeyBank Capital Markets): Hey, great. Thanks for taking my question. Rob, to that point, you know, on that SketchUp, Claude, you know, partnership that you have, you know, it sounds like the goal is to maybe try to convert, you know, Claude users to SketchUp users, because I imagine they'll need, you know, SketchUp seat. Is there any consumption, you know, credits, you know, you were talking about aligned with this partnership, or is it more, you know, on the license component? And then it wasn't lost on me that, you know, you were one of the only, you know, initial partners with this initial announcement. You know, there's one other, but, you know, could this, is this a table stakes kind of feature? You know, how do you think the, you know, partnerships with the frontier models kind of evolve for you and kind of the markets?

Rob (Executive): Good morning, Jason. Thanks for the questions. You know, I think that this is going to be more table stakes to have different motions and way to reach the market. And we embrace that. So expect to see more from us across the portfolio. You know, that's one example where you can start with the modeling in Claude. I flipped that around the inverse, you know, what we launched in Q4 was SketchUp AI, where you can do that, what we call vibe modeling, natural language prompts, within SketchUp itself to do the modeling. So you want to offer it in multiple avenues, and we'll see going more, I call it atomic level, at the capabilities. We want to be able to do that in Trimble Connect, for example, off of our own agentic AI platform. So multiple paths to market. We're learning a lot. We're learning a lot internally. We'll learn a lot by following our customers and how they use it. We'll learn the motions and, I'd say, optimize the motions of how to convert users and then to bring them into the Trimble ecosystem.

And once you're in that ecosystem, let's say if you've done a model through Cloud, and then I talked about in the prepared remarks, if you want to do rendering or daylight analysis on that, you know, that creates capabilities for us to upsell and deliver more value to the customers once they're coming into SketchUp. So coming at it from multiple angles, I do think it's table stakes that we're engaged on a number of levels. And I'm really proud of the team for the entrepreneurial spirit they're displaying. They're really, really going after it.

And then I might have missed it, but, you know, the field services strength in the quarter, I'm curious if any of this was, you know, demand that was pulled, pulled forward might not be the right word, but maybe deals had closed, you know, earlier than expected. It's just I look at, you know, high oil prices, high memory prices. I wonder, you know, if clients are trying to maybe get ahead of some of those things.

Rob (Executive): So within field systems, the demand was strong intrinsically in the quarter, so we saw no pull forward in the quarter whatsoever. The two pillars of strength in the quarter, first ones in civil construction, that really has just been continuing the trend of the last few years. I know you were at Klan Expo. You saw our booth. Trumbull was on 24 other OEM partner booths at ConExpo. The level of innovation the team continues to deliver extensibility for swing booms on excavators, ground penetrating radar integrated into machine control is impressive to see reaching the machine types like compact track loaders, new OEM partnerships, new go-to-market partnerships with their Trimble technology outlets. The sum of activity is creating the demand from the product innovation side as well as the go-to-market reach. The survey team also had and delivered a strong quarter. I'd say also off the back of new platforms, data collector platforms, they've built and continue to go to market. Excellent. So really strong execution in the quarter. Really just a terrific grant for the team.

Neso Nang (Barenburg): Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question too, if I may. The first one, if I could start with the ACO. You've talked about the strength in your Trimble Connection, Trimble Construction 1 and Trimble Connect outside of the US. I was wondering if any highlights that you could call out that's really driving that up for cross-field motion as well. And then in the regions outside of North America, if you could maybe talk a little bit about the competitive dynamics that you were seeing as well, that would be really helpful. Thank you.

Rob (Executive): Hey, good morning. This is Rob. I'll take the question. So with respect to terminal construction one, we launched the capabilities in Asia Pacific in the quarter. Still, it's obviously still early as a result of that, but that to me is a real highlight because we've seen the positive benefits of that through North America and Europe. Within Europe, we brought project site to Europe in the last few, in the last couple of quarters. The team is doing a really nice job starting to take that to market. In fact, I think the European growth was even faster than the North American growth in the quarter, and that would be indicative of the cross-sell and up-sell motion. Competitively, this is a unique set of capabilities we have at Trimble inside of that TC1 offering the breadth and depth of what we can bring to our customers, much less when we now intersect what we can do with field systems and AECO. So uniquely positioned at a competitive standpoint, strong highlights that, to me, with the cross-sell and up-sell that translated into the strength, not only at the ARR and revenue beat, but also the bookings that support that ongoing growth here for the rest of the year. That's really helpful. Thank you.

My second question is about around the SketchUp to cloud connector. Really exciting. I think someone's already flagged it as well. Only a few software vendors follow this approach in this design software space. I guess I was just thinking more in terms of risk. I was wondering, you know, how would it work in terms of the data created? in SketchUp through one of the users coming through Claude. Does Anthropic, does it have access to that data? And is it any possibility that they might be able to replicate some of the SketchUp features through the data access that they might have going forward? Or is it something that maybe we shouldn't worry about it at all?

Rob (Executive): I don't see a near-term concern on that relative to what Claude or another LLM provider could do in that respect. What we like about it is, in fact, we see more opportunity to expand the addressable market for people who are not Trimble customers today. What they have to do to be able to use the service is to create a Trimble identity. So that's important so we can actually know who the user is. So we believe we can capture customers and users who haven't used the tool before. So we've seen that opportunity to expand the size of the addressable market. And it becomes relatively easy to do that modeling because you're doing so through text prompts in order to create that model. So then our opportunity then from a downstream monetization play is to create new SketchUp users and then to upsell those SketchUp users into inside, excuse me, the terminal construction one offering.

Jerry Revich (Wells Fargo): Yes, hi. Good morning, everyone. Rob, I wonder if we could just talk about just a minute on all of the data that you folks have and the value of bringing that together using the AI tools. Is there a way to quantify in terms of the number of projects that you folks have in the system, et cetera, just to build comfort around the ability to essentially leverage AI to drive incremental ARR as opposed to the risk factors that everybody's looking at?

Phil (Executive): Hey, good morning, Jerry. You know, you've heard me talk before about trillions, billions, millions, and thousands, trillions of dollars of construction run through Trimble today, tens of billions of freight run through Trimble. We have millions of users of our software and hundreds of thousands of instruments, machines in the real physical world operate on Trimble. That is singularly unique. If we talk about, I'll double click within that and we take Trimble Connect, which provides that single source of truth, create that digital twin between the physical and digital. Today, inside of Trimble Connect, more than 30 million projects have been created. There's been over 50 million users in Trimble Connect since inception. We have thousands of integrations, third-party integrations, into the individual applications we have across Trimble. We have over 130 extensions, integrations that have been created inside our Trimble marketplace, which is part of Trimble Connect. In fact, at the mentions at our user conference in November, which we'd love to see you and the community attend, we're actually going to hold our first developer conference as part of that.

So you take this unique set of proprietary data, the density of that data, this is singularly unique, creating the ecosystem and the partner network to build upon this is why we see such an opportunity for AI to be a logical extension of our Connect and Scale strategy, really not even a separate initiative. So we really think there's a lot of compelling aspects here for us and for our customers.

Super. And then from a margin standpoint, I was really impressed with transportation and logistics performance in the quarter. I don't know if the margin's exceeded your internal plan, but if you could just unpack the drivers of margins in the quarter, and I think typically you do see a step up in margins in the business 2Q versus 1Q, and I just want to make sure there's nothing in the base that's extraordinary as we think about the bridge in that business from here.

Phil (Executive): Yeah, thanks for the question. I'm really pleased with the team. As we lap ourselves, we had the mobility divestiture last year, and so there were some stranded costs within that business that the team had worked on throughout the year. And so really, really happy with the performance. We're guiding to about the same rate at the end of the year, throughout the year, 24%. So I think you can view this as structural as we go throughout the year.

Tammy Zakaria (JP Morgan): Hi, good morning. Very nice results. Congrats on that. So this is a question from me who's not a designer and I don't use SketchUp or Claude to draw 3D models. So I apologize for the simplistic nature of the question. But about the Claude partnership, it sounds very interesting and I appreciate the TAM increased potential, but could you sort of explain how do you have confidence that cloud users would eventually migrate to using SketchUp instead of just staying on cloud that probably keeps getting better at giving customized designs on the platform? Or maybe a better way to ask is what's there in SketchUp now that cloud doesn't and will not be able to help with?

Rob (Executive): Hey, Tammy. Good morning. Thanks for the question. And I will be your personal sales rep to sell you a license of SketchUp and make you a user. Until then, imagine going to Claude and through natural language prompting, you don't have to be a user of the underlying modeling technology. So you're new to the software and you want to create a model. You can do so through just typing the prompt of what you want. If you want a new patio for the backyard and it's of a certain size and, let's say, dimensionality and style that you want to put in there. OK, so the squad's going to deliver you a model. We believe that that's not enough. You need to do something with that model. If you just wanted a picture of the model, you could create that in Cloud, but that's not actually going to translate into the workflow. What you then do is if you've created that design of that model in Cloud, you bring it into the SketchUp ecosystem in order to iterate on it. Because the one thing we know with the design is it's not static. You don't just do a prompt and then you're done. You want to iterate on that. You want to collaborate on that.

Like one of the real powers of SketchUp is the ability to have multi-user collaboration. And think about the coordination that an architect has with an engineer, much less a contractor or the owner. You're not going to do that through the LLM. You're doing that through SketchUp and then leveraging Trimble Connect to drive that collaboration. And when you want to perform that professional grade analysis and you want to do the energy modeling of that or the rendering on that model, you're going to come into the authoring application or the authoring tool, which is SketchUp, to do that.

So I go back to the ability to have started, and Claude, in this example, is we're lowering the barrier to entry to create that next generation of AI-first professionals who can then bring those models into SketchUp for the next iterations of that. So I hope that helps you a little bit understand that, is that it's insufficient to complete a workflow with that initial model that you've created in an LLM. I agree with, I think, the assertion you're making is that it's going to get better over time. And you can imagine then we'll put more capabilities into those engines up front over time. And we want to bring more Trimble capabilities throughout our ecosystem that direction as well. And so much of that, again, I see as an ability to create new users for our tools. And remember that within the tools we have themselves, whether it's SketchUp or every other software application we're delivering at Trimble, we also have AI inside of those tools. So think of Claude inside AI, Claude inside of SketchUp as opposed to SketchUp inside of Claude. We work it from multiple angles.

That is extremely helpful. Thank you so much and my second question. I wanted to double click on fill systems. The year started off really strong, but you're still targeting low to mid single digit organic growth. Can you remind us what you're expecting for two Q and to get to your full year guide, we need to see a lot of slow down versus the first quarter number you had so. Is it conservatism? Are you seeing an impact from the Iran war in 2Q and you expect that to stay for the rest of the year? So any color on fuel systems?

Phil (Executive): I'd say, you know, the first quarter obviously reflected what we saw last year, particularly in civil construction. So the market continues to be strong, particularly in that business. Rob mentioned geospatial performed well in the first quarter. As we start to think about the rest of the year in that business, this is the one that has the least visibility with the hardware particularly. And we start to get into last year, we had really strong second half of the year. So part of this is the year-over-year, the comps. And part of this is the Middle East, getting around the tariff policy, just some of the macros. I'd say, you know, so we've incorporated the risk, but we also incorporate the opportunities as we think about the guide and where the strength of the market is. At this point, again, we started the year very well, but we'll continue to keep an eye on it on market and update you in a few months.

Joshua Tilton (Wolf Research): Hey guys, thanks for sneaking me in. Congrats on a good quarter and just two quick ones for me. The first one is kind of a follow up question. So I think the question a lot of my peers have been trying to ask you on the call so far, and I think that's around the Claude integration announcement. And I think what a lot of people are trying to understand is just as you, you know, as you integrate more and more with Claude, you are increasing your users productivity. And I think people are trying to understand how are you guys setting up yourselves to capture that increase in productivity that the cloud connector will provide your average SketchUp user and I think the second question that I have just a quick follow-up is on that last field system comment that you mentioned is it fair to assume that there is more conservatism in the field systems outlook today than there was 90 days ago given everything that's going on in the world and the visibility that you just spoke?

Rob (Executive): With respect to field systems, I'd say what I want you to assume is that we've actually increased the guide for the year. So I want you to see that we don't see that anything has fundamentally changed in the market. We're three months, from a reporting standpoint, we're three months into the year. We've got nine more to go. Let's see where things are, how they're shaking out in three months from now. So no fundamental change in view in the field systems business. In fact, if anything, you could say it's better because of the raise, some of the raise we put through. That's what you need to hear on that one.

With respect to Claude and as we integrate Trimble capabilities with LLMs and increase our users' productivity, what I want you to hear there is we start by increasing our users' productivity within the tools they already use from us today. That's the primary place we start. When I think about going the other way and when we're working with Claude with this SketchUp example or other examples that I think you'll see in time to come, we think of those as opportunities to create new users. We think of that as opportunities for our existing users to start, if that's where they want to start, and then bring those models into SketchUp. I just can't stress enough that for the professional user, let's separate maybe the professional user from the consumer user of SketchUp. At that professional user level, you need to bring those files into our ecosystem. If you're going to iterate, if you're going to collaborate, and if you're going to perform professional grade analysis. That's the difference between the professional user and, let's say, the maker, the consumer user of SketchUp. I totally embrace SketchUp consumers. That is the bulk of the user count that we have in that community, and it creates that brand and the content that we have in it. We really monetize at the professional grade level. That is a fundamentally different set of workflow, and hopefully that helps answer the question.

Chad Dillard (Bernstein): Hey, good morning, guys. I'm going to continue on the SketchUp and Claude line of questioning. So a few for me. So I guess, first of all, from an economic standpoint, assuming you guys price for this ad feature, how do you guys think about the split up between what Trimble gets versus what Claude gets? Who owns the data? And I'm just trying to understand, like, how does this compress the learning curve going to more of an agentic approach? And maybe lastly, you know, this is, you know, SketchUp was kind of like the first deployment, but where else do you see this sort of, you know, relationship evolving across your different product sets?

Rob (Executive): Okay, there's a few topics in there. Hopefully I can capture them here. The data is the customer's data. So I always want to orient starting there. And that customer is creating a model, an example that we talked about today. That model is downloadable, and you can bring it into SketchUp. From an economic standpoint, let me highlight two different motions we have. One motion is the announcement we had in Q4 of last year where we have SketchUp AI. It's an add-on subscription to the SketchUp license you already have. And with that SketchUp AI license, it's only $11.99 a month for that add-on license. You get a set of credits for it or tokens, but think of it as credits that you get. So from that economic standpoint, that is directly to Trimble. It's all Trimble, and obviously there's a variable cost when we're on the consumption side of that. But we built that into the pricing model.

What we are asking about with Claude, if you start in Claude and you create that model that's downloadable, what we really see is the economic model there is to create users downstream. That's the way I would think about that. And how can we create those users downstream? Well, at least today, we start by requiring them to have a Trimble ID. And when you have that Trimble ID, that's how you're able to download that SketchUp model and then bring it into and to SketchUp as the authoring tool. So there's multiple paths to monetization. I think about in one of the first, I think it was the second question we got this morning. When we talk about tokens, I see that as a tactic. That's one of multiple tactics that we have. We'll have tactics of monetization where we bundle AI capabilities into the good, better, best offerings. Clearly, we want to upsell customers into the better and the best. We'll provide a higher value. We'll monetize there. We'll monetize purely as standalone transaction or consumption. And one of the reasons we were attracted to the Transporian acquisition when we did it is there's well over $100 million of transactional revenue that comes from that business.

We don't have to imagine a world with transactional revenue. We have a world with transactional or consumption-based revenue. And inside of that, we've got autonomous, which in other words, those are AI-first products that we're monetizing on a consumption-based level. So we're open to multiple doors and avenues as the tactics to monetize the capabilities that we're bringing to market. And we think we can do so in a way that expands the size of the addressable market while we're doing it. And all of this is early days, and we see it as virtue that we're out there in the market, that we're testing, that we're learning, and that we're leading.

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Q4 2025 Earnings Call — February 10, 2026

to analyze and improve sales strategies. So, across the board, we see AI contributing to efficiencies in various departments.

We expect to see double-digit increases in productivity from our engineers due to AI usage.

Overall, I would say AI is a significant contributor to our operational efficiencies, and we anticipate that trend to continue into 2026.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from Jason Salino with KeyBank Capital Markets.

Jason Salino (KeyBank Capital Markets):

I wanted to step up the field systems, ARR growth. You know, it was really impressive to see it accelerate to 20%. Maybe can you speak to some of the strengths you saw in the quarter? And then when we think about guidance, it's assuming kind of deceleration in 2026 to that low to mid-teens. You know, is that just a function of .com, or is there some dynamic with kind of the transition we should know about?

Rob (Executive):

With the growth in the corridor, and you're right, it was impressive growth from the team. We continue to see strong performance in the machine control guidance as a service. We can continue to see growth. I'm actually providing corrections into the automotive market and geospatial. We see growth in our catalyst, which is positioning as a service. The software conversions continue to drive growth really across the board strength.

Relative to the guide in 2026, there is a lapping effect. As we've started the conversions and have been early in them, there's just a natural mathematical effect on that. So really continue at the fundamental level to expect to see strong growth in that. And, you know, when you up level to the segment level, you know, field systems crossed a threshold now of being over 50% software and services for the year. So very happy about that.

Jason Salino (KeyBank Capital Markets):

And then the construction and architecture industry, you know, seems very suitable for agentic given the many stakeholders and historically siloed processes. But the industry has historically been pretty slow at adopting technology. Can you discuss how you think the industry will ramp adoption of agentic and how that might compare with many other industries? And then as Trimble launches these new agentic features, how are you looking to monetize them? Thank you.

Rob (Executive):

We think that Trimble platforms are the exact right place for customers to adopt the agentic workflows that we can enable, let's say, as opposed to doing them outside of a Trimble platform. So we're already that system of records that becomes a system of intelligence. We already have a unique data set resident inside of Trimble that customers want to unlock.

When I spend time with customers, increasingly they're talking about how do they unlock more out of the data they have and how do they get AI usage on top of that data to help them address the challenges and the opportunities that exist in the industry? So we think the best way to speed up the adoption in the industry of agentic AI is doing it on top of the existing platforms and solutions that they're already buying from us, where we have that trusted relationship and a unique and proprietary data set upon which to build.

Phil (Executive):

Just to add, you had asked about the monetization. So one thing I'll point out, with SketchUp, we introduced some new AI agents, and what we've started to do is actually include credits. So as you use the agents, you apply credits against them, early stages. But as we think about the monetization is moving a little bit more into that consumption as well.

Jason Salino (KeyBank Capital Markets):

Okay, very helpful.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from Josh Tilton with Wolf Research.

Josh Tilton (Wolf Research):

Hey, guys. Thanks for sneaking me in, and congrats on a strong end to the year. I'll start with a pretty high-level one, maybe for next year. I think coming into this year, there were some puts and takes on some conservatism in the guidance for 2025. How do we think about what those puts and takes are for the guidance that you just set for 26? Maybe a little more specifically, like, what are you assuming for the macro? What are you assuming around Fed? Like, how do we think about some of those inputs in the outlook for this year?

Rob (Executive):

You know, 2025 is clearly a very strong year of progression for us strategically, operationally, built on what was also a strong 2024. When we think about 2026, we're also thinking about that in a longer-term context through the 2027 model we put forward at Investor Day. At a macro level, don't really see any fundamental differences in the market.

So we're expecting and planning really a pretty consistent trend environment that's out there, and we can talk through the puts and takes on that. That includes, for example, at the U.S. federal government level, really a very muted amount of business there. In transportation, at the macro level, expect to continue to see a more challenged freight market. And if we look in construction, we see pockets of strength in data centers and infrastructure build.

We see it in shipbuilding. We see it in onshoring and reshoring of manufacturing. And really, those are trends that we've been seeing here for the last couple of years. So we continue to progress the strategy. We take that forward into the guide. And inside that guide, we want to make sure we leave ourselves room to operate the business comfortably and to be able to reinvest back into the business.

Josh Tilton (Wolf Research):

Super helpful. And maybe just like one more bit of narrow follow-up. In ACO, I know the deck says over 70% of ACV bookings with existing customers. But when we think about, you know, I guess just under 30% of ACV bookings coming from new, where are those new customers coming from? Like why are they choosing you over the competition? And maybe just remind us, what did that look like in the past? Thanks, guys.

Rob (Executive):

We see that in two dimensions. One is geographic. So we're a very global business. More than an ACO, more than half of it is North America. That's a different ratio than the global construction market, which is to say we have lots of opportunities outside of North America with new logos, and we see that through the results.

If you take it closer to a product level or even TC1 level, you know, bundled offerings, take project management as an example. Added hundreds of new customers in 2025 into the business, and that played through that 50% ARR growth. So you can see that on two different axes. You have product penetration in the market meets geographic penetration.

We've got 48 years now of building best in breed, best in class, purpose-built solutions for the end markets that we serve and as customers that we serve. In addition, TC1, Trimble Construction 1, within AECO has been a strong catalyst for that adoption because when you're buying inside Trimble Construction 1, you're buying a set of solutions that are natively integrated that are helping you solve workflow challenges and opportunities getting after those higher order problems.

Josh Tilton (Wolf Research):

Super helpful. Thank you, guys.

Our next question comes from Chad Dillard with Bernstein.

Chad Dillard (Bernstein):

Chad has disconnected.

Our next question comes from Kristen Owen with Oppenheimer.

Kristen Owen (Oppenheimer):

Hi, good morning. Thank you so much for the question. Rob, I wanted to follow up here on slide 8. Really appreciate a lot of these KPIs and giving some visibility into this. One of the questions that I have for you, though, is if I take some of these data points around net retention, the new logos versus existing customers, and I were to roll that up into a comprehensive ARR growth algorithm that sort of points us to the mid-teens guidance that you've provided for 2026. How do I think about those individual moving parts? You know, how much is price, how much is account accretion, et cetera, et cetera. I would take these KPIs and really contextualize them in the guidance.

Rob (Executive):

So let's maybe work backwards from the guide implies a mid-teens growth ARR in the business, which is also, by the way, consistent with what we put forward at Investor Day. When you do the stack on net retention, you start with looking at the gross retention. So the churn is in that mid-single-digit range to begin with.

With 70% of the ACV bookings being with existing customers, that's the sum of cross-sell and up-sell. We actually see a ratio of higher upsell to the cross-sell. So we're continuing to penetrate the existing base we have of customers. By the way, when we cross-sell to customers, that then creates the next upsell opportunity. There's a flywheel that happens with that.

Pricing is relatively modest. I call that in the low single-digit range on the stack up through that net return range. Yes, food stack to get to total net retention. I'm sorry, those are the sum of the pieces. And so then you see some of the other statistics on there, you know, whether it's the number of customers using more than one product or the growth in customers with more than three products. You know, those support that cross-sell upsell part of the net retention stack.

Kristen Owen (Oppenheimer):

Okay, great. Maybe just one additional clarification there. On the activity rate, you know, were we to see a pickup in construction activity or infrastructure activity, how would that integrate into the algorithm? And then I have a separate follow-up.

Rob (Executive):

Overall new construction, of course, would be a positive for us. We would see it in the bookings before we'll see it in the ARR, so call that a positive that we would probably comment on into 2027 as opposed to 2026. There we look to places like Europe, and let's talk about infrastructure in Germany. That would be a place where we look out for additional business.

Another sub-market would be residential, where that's a turn for the positive. If we see interest rates go down, and then the residential market come back there, that could be a positive that we would see. I think we would see that more in 2027 than we would in 2026, and we would see that both in ACO and field systems. So that's how I think about the activity rate.

Kristen Owen (Oppenheimer):

I think you said you had one other follow-up?

Rob (Executive):

Yes, sorry. The other follow-up here is the AI question, maybe just framing it in terms of the context of how your customers are looking to adapt their business models. I mean, we've heard some large integrated ENC customers, you know, publicly discussing their ambitions to bring in their own AI enabled solutions. So I'm just trying to understand where Trimble sits in that discussion. That's my follow up. Thank you.

Rob (Executive):

If I think about segmenting a customer base, we have everywhere from, let's say, small customers all the way through the largest enterprises in the world. And I think as you move along a stack like that in the customer segmentation, you'll have customers that have naturally different levels of, let's say, AI ambitions that they can put forward and kind of resources they can even dedicate to that.

There's no question that customers, especially as you move into the large enterprise customers, are looking to unlock more efficiency and more insights out of the data and then to see AI as a force multiplier to help unlock that data. So much of what we do at Trimble is that core record system of intelligence.

We operate the common and connected data environment with Trimble Connect. There's naturally an enormous amount of data from the physical and digital world that's resident on Trimble. And we see our customers looking to unlock the potential based on the data they already have with Trimble. But then I should also say in connecting non-Trimble data into that, it's a fragmented system.

So we see ourselves as really the logical extension of our customers' AI ambitions to build and extend that on top of Trimble. Separately, will customers take their own, let's say, AI initiatives to leverage data they have from Trimble, I absolutely think that they will do that. And that's our opportunity to build more of those agents and those agentic workflows on top of it so that our customers don't have to do it themselves. So we see all of this as a net opportunity for us.

Jonathan Ho (William Blair):

Hi, good morning, and let me echo congratulations as well. Given your changes in mix to recurring, how do we think about sort of the broader convergence between your ARR growth and overall revenue growth given that mix shift, and what are some of the puts and takes for that to happen?

Rob (Executive):

At the mix level, I think it's easier to take it through the segments because ACO has really converged as has translational logistics. So I would think of those as having converged. The error on revenue growth rates, I mean, it can be plus or minus 100 bps or so, but I call that in the noise.

You really isolate them to field systems where there's a spread between the two. And in that respect, you can see it in the numbers when with the revenue in the business well being $454 million in the quarter, or sorry, excuse me, $379 million in the quarter, and you see the ARR at $409 million.

So, you know, over a billion and a half for the year of revenues. In other words, it's a smaller portion of the segment. You know, it's in the mid-20s, ARR's percent of total revenue. So we continue to draft conversions in field systems, both software conversions, because that's where you'd see the perpetual software that we have in field systems continue to drive those conversions to recurring, but also importantly, the hardware aspects of the business.

We're talking about 150 bits or so of headwind and field systems through the conversions. And we continue to expect to see that in 2026. And I think we'll be talking about the same thing in 2027. And we're for sure going to stay the course.

Rob (Executive):

I just wanted to ask more broadly, you know, whether you see, you know, sort of stronger adoption in your base in 2026, this is, you know, maybe look like a turning point and, you know, how does your margin structure look like for, you know, sort of agentic AI revenue relative to SAS revenue? Thank you.

Rob (Executive):

Strategic adoption in our customer base in 2026 will for sure correlate to the rollout we have of agentic AI capabilities. And I think you're going to see a lot more from us in 2026. So much of what we've been doing over the last 18 months, I call it more of the infrastructure building and beta applications out.

We expect to turn into adoption in that customer base. And then building on Phil's earlier comments on the monetization and we're going to expect to see more consumption and that we also monetize through the tiers the tiered offerings like good best tiers and so we've put AI capabilities to in those best of the tiers.

We want to incent and motivate adoption at that level. So there's a hybrid of where it's both recurring and consumption. And we're still learning here how to get that mix right. Relative to the margins, let's say the incremental margins, of course, AI, agentic AI, generative AI, does have a variable cost associated with it. It's not for free.

So the unit economics are, of course, different in an AI-forward world, which, by the way, we think is something that favors the position that we have as a company.

Naeso Neng (Barenburg):

Hello. Good morning, and thank you for taking my questions. The first one I have is around the agent of AI role that's coming through later this year. I'm really excited about them, looking forward to them. I'm just wondering, are there any particular areas of the software portfolio that you would focus on with these AI agents between AECO and TNL and then even within AECO, which stage of the lifecycle, construction lifecycle that you would look to focus on?

Rob (Executive):

Yeah, I think you're going to see more coming out from us in 2026. You hit it correctly with an ACO and transportation and logistics. If we think about the life cycle or the parts of ACO where you might expect to see more or less coming from us.

Actually, it's across the board as the punchline. I really wouldn't say it's concentrated in any one part of the business. And I'd say pretty similar within transportation and logistics. There are so many opportunities. We see where to apply the technology and the capabilities.

I think you're going to hear pretty broad applications from us. And in many respects, I just think of AI as that force multiplier. It's an extension. It's a natural extension of what we're already doing to help our customers deliver their work better, faster, safer, cheaper, and greener.

Naeso Neng (Barenburg):

That's really helpful. Thank you. And my second question is also related to AI. I was wondering if share with us technology infrastructure readiness for these AI features, similar to the investments that you've made in your technology stack to be cloud ready, the investment you made in the last few years. Would you need to do similar level of investments in your technology to be AI ready going forward, or are you already quite there?

Rob (Executive):

I think we're already on a path with the technology readiness. I mean, we're going to continue to invest in that and, you know, inside the guide that we put forward and the operating leverages, you know, we've left ourselves room to make sure that we're continuing to innovate in the solutions and then within the platform capabilities of Trimble.

The very good news is we're not just starting on this. We've been investing the last couple of years, so there's a run rate aspect to this. And a lot of what we've been doing the last couple of years, I would really categorize it more as having built the infrastructure, the wiring, the plumbing, an agentic platform upon which we can, at a more scalable level, build the actual agentic workflows.

So there is a good amount of laying of pipe and wire that we've been doing really a lot in 2025, much more so than 2024, which is why we believe we're positioned to be able to accelerate releases in 2026.

Tammy Zakaria (JP Morgan):

Hey, good morning. Thank you so much for taking my question. I wanted to, I'm sorry if I missed it, but wanted to get an update on TC1. Could you remind us if it's available globally, everywhere now, and are all software solutions in AECO are on it? If not, what's the timeline?

Rob (Executive):

TC1 continues to be a strong driver of the growth in the business, both the bookings. We see the majority of the ARR that we have today in ACO is under a TC1 agreement, which means it's a commercial framework agreement. We have rolled TC1 out into Europe.

I'd say we're still in motion in Asia Pacific with the rollout of TC1, so there is some more geographic expansion that we'll continue to do, which also gives us confidence in the path forward for the growth in the business.

And so much of what TC1 does as that commercial framework is it eliminates friction from the next level of cross-sell that happens. So under a TC1 frame, you may just be buying one product. You may be buying one or two initially within a prepackaged bundle that we have.

Once you've got that frame agreement in place, you've got one set of terms and conditions. So the ability to then come by the next application that we have on the terminal becomes a lot easier, both for the sellers as well as for the customers because of that groundwork that's been laid. So it's a very positive aspect of the business and still has a lot of room to run for us to grow.

Rob Mason (Baird):

Yes, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Rob, you had already discussed the model conversion burden you're carrying in the field systems business. But I recall coming into the year as well, we talked about a headwind from just changes in the CAT-JV system. But you know machine control was very strong throughout the year. I'm just curious was that the, you know, it's a couple of points headwind expected was that the actual experience to that play out and how does that carry or not into this year 26?

Rob (Executive):

The short answer is yes, it played out as we expected. I mean, it was entirely around software conversions and entirely in addition to the machine control guidance of the service. By the way, we call it Works Plus. It's what we call it to customers.

And it's been just as successful, actually more successful than we expected. And that drives some of the headwinds through those conversions into the revenue. But there's also something that's, I'd say, on top to me, which is positive, which is that it really is not a headwind.

It's incremental with the conversions. And that is when we look at the machine control and guidance offering, we've seen that 50% of the wins that we get are to new logos. That's an addressable market expansion. And that's not a headwind to the growth because that's incremental business that we're getting.

So I'm really enthusiastic about where we see these business model conversions helping us expand both customers and then usage within customers and penetration within those customers.

Phil (Executive):

So, yeah, we anticipate with the growth in the T&L business that we can continue to put high leverage off of that business to be able to expand. There is an element of the stranded costs, as you're correct, as we enter the year. We expect to get some of that out throughout the year, which will also help with margins in T&L.

And then overall at the company level, I mentioned this, for the 26th guy, we do expect about 50 basis points of expansion at the EBITDA. So, as Rob mentioned earlier, what's nice about our financial models, we're able to reinvest in the business for the growth, but also show the margin expansion with the op leverage.

Guy Hardwick (Barclays):

Hi, good morning, Rob, Phil, and Michael. Just wondering if you could point to any contribution to ARR or ACV from AI products, whether it's agentic AI or AI products so far, whether it's in reality capture or autonomous procurement or anything else. And I have a follow-up.

Rob (Executive):

If we take autonomous procurement within transportation, that's probably the one we've talked about the most throughout 2025. It's a discrete standalone product that's generating double-digit millions of revenue.

We did see, you know, when we launched in the fourth quarter, you know, we could see the new customers we were getting. It's a monthly subscription for that service. Where I see it more is if we think about, you know, if we sort of flip the definition and we look at the percent of revenue that's got AI associated with it, now we're talking, you know, well over $100 million of business at Trimble that is enabled or somehow powered, let's say, by AI features.

We're very bullish about that capability because what a surveyor is fundamentally doing is creating a digital model of the physical earth. There's an extraordinary amount of data that's collected by surveyors. And they're not collecting data for the sake of collecting data. They need to turn it into actionable information.

Rob (Executive):

To turn it into actionable information, that pulls that data increasingly to the cloud. And then when you get to the cloud, you want to be able to do automated feature extraction as an example off of that data set. That automated feature extraction is a form of AI data.

We're able to sell that capability because of just the raw efficiencies you get through the automation of that processing of these enormous data sets. And then once you process those enormous data sets, and yes, they're AI-enabled, you're now taking that and turning that into the next downstream workflow.

Guy Hardwick (Barclays):

Just as a follow-up, Rob, you mentioned a little earlier about the efficiencies of using AI internally. Trimble's shown great leverage over R&D and G&A this quarter and the full year. How much do you think AI has contributed to that? And maybe give a sense of how much it contributes in 2026.

Rob (Executive):

If we look down the stack, I would say we do see it up and down. I mean, if we're – I'll go – I'll extend, actually, the question a bit. And if I look in COGS, you know, we can see in pockets of the business in the ACO a case deflection up to 20%.

So for our folks who are working on customer support, they're able to spend time working on the higher order problems. I think we get better work out of folks as well as more efficiency out of them. If we look through R&D, 95% plus of our engineers are using the technology today.

We see double digit increases in the productivity, which is to say we're getting more development done. And that development takes the form both of features that are customer-facing features as well as the underlying plumbing because it's a lot of work to make sure we're able to connect the data and have the right data taxonomies and investing back into cyber and all the wiring we need to do to be able to deliver the connected workflows.

We look through sales and marketing. We record all our sellers' calls, and we're able to apply AI on top of that to be able to analyze and improve sales strategies. So, across the board, we see AI contributing to efficiencies in various departments.