Q2 2027 Earnings Call — September 3, 2026
our first question comes from the line of Edison Yu with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Great. Thank you for taking our questions. First of all, I want to ask about AI and maybe try to tie in some of the broader dynamics going on. There's obviously been a lot of attention paid to the fact that the gap between frontier and open source open weight models is compressed a lot. Does this have any sort of impact on your efforts? And if so, is that actually a positive tailwind for you? I hadn't thought very much about it in that way, but look, what we're taking is the best models across the field to apply on top of our data. It does help us, of course, the proliferation of that, more models, more availability. And what we're trying to be is model agnostic on a lot of our applications. You heard about our AI app and that progressing to the open beta phase. And in that particular app, we allow people to choose their own models back end. So if you have a preference for Gemini over and topic or what have you, you can choose. It's a good point about smaller models. Obviously, I think that we're going to turn to a situation where.
The system will choose the model that's most appropriate for the question at some point. I'm sure that's where the big companies are going to go as well. But yeah, I mean, in a sense, the commoditization of those models only accentuates the extra value that we have of our data. And I often say to people, Thank you very much for joining us. Daily Scan with all of the archive really fits in well. So I think it just with the point you're making and it accentuates the value of extra data sets like ours. Understood. And then, yeah, yeah, totally, totally. Separate question as a follow up. You cited the pipeline and I believe $4 billion and I think over 25% or a billion I guess is near term. Can you provide a little bit more context on how that number has been relative to the past and also kind of the size of the deals maybe in the pipeline relative to Germany? Yeah, it's really great. Yeah, well, we're very pleased with the German deal. That pipeline that you're talking about is referring to Constellation Services. So yeah, we've got about $4 billion in of deals identified in our pipeline there, about 1 billion of which we have designated as near term pipeline.
And yeah, so we've seen both smaller deals when civil governments come in like this German civil, but it's really exciting that there are civil governments now taking interest in dedicated capacity options in particular of our constellation services options. and I'm pleased to say we're also seeing even bigger deals at the big end of this spectrum. And some of that's contributing to the sheer scale of near-term opportunity pipeline there. So, yeah, I mean, I've never seen it as big as it is now. So it's maturing in all the ways, but especially the maturation of the big deals is really impressive right now. So we're pleased on all fronts with Constellation Services.
Thank you.
Your next question comes from the line of John Godden with Citi. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. You know, a number of companies out there are planning to launch different types of large LEO constellations, and the launch players who generally describe the market for their services is very tight. You mentioned a recent partnership in Germany as an example of just diversifying access to launch. I was hoping you could offer a bit of a temperature check on the market for launch services as you see it. And do you have any concerns about getting access at reasonable prices? Yeah, I mean, there is definitely a lot of demand, especially for the rideshare missions with SpaceX right now. And that is driving some challenges for some of the players, especially the smaller players. You have to remember, of course, in the big arc, prices have been coming down. When we first started out at Planet, the launch prices were about 20K a kilogram. Now they're significantly less than that.
Thank you very much. and so we're very experienced in putting our payloads up when we need and we're very flexible and speedy so you know all those providers really like working with us because of how experienced we are in doing that so we always turn up with the payloads on time integrate them quickly and so on and so they love working with us so we've got Good plans. Of course, diversification is really great when new players and we like investing in contracts with new players because it helps encourage They want to show they've got real opportunities to their investors to get going, and that's great. And it's synergistic with our satellite services with countries. I mean, in the case of that one with ESA Aerospace in Germany, yeah, that's really great because, of course, Germany would love to see satellites built in Germany and launched on German rockets. So it just plays into that game. So we're an even stronger industrial player for that country in that example. And there's others around the world like that. That's great.
And if I could just follow up with broadening up that question a bit to the supply chain at large, kind of same idea, a lot of activity, a lot of growth in expected satellite launches. Is there anything deeper in the supply chain that's showing up as kind of a problem, a concern, access to some sort of raw material or technology that's tightening up lead times? Anything like that, a temperature check would be great. Thank you. Yeah, no, we feel relatively good about our supply chains. We do think a lot about the supply chain risk, of course, and showing that up. And we have made some investments to stockpile things that we really think are critical components. Most of that is relatively straightforward for us. I mean, we're relatively small numbers still on most of the global scales. So actually anything to add to that? No, I mean, I obviously took up guidance on the year for CapEx. And part of that is, you know, we want to make sure that we don't run into any of those constraints. So we're looking at longer lead time items and making sure that we're making advanced procurements so that we can move at the pace of demand. Excellent. Thank you. No problem.
Your next question comes from the line of Mike Lattimore with Northland Capital Markets. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Great. Yeah, thanks so much. On the queryable earth offering, I guess you call it AI application now, when might you see this get to general availability and then how are you thinking about monetizing it? Yeah, great questions. I mean, look, we're really pleased with how the interest of folks into that application, some of the emerging use cases that we're seeing are really incredible. We're really still in a learning journey. It's a beta mode for a reason. We're learning what and really trying to hone the app into what is valuable for customers. and then we'll think about the marketing and go to market pieces of it so we're more focused on that value creation first but the general way in which it's helping is it's enabling people to get going really quickly like what's the quick way of getting a rough idea does Planet have data that could be relevant for this and what's the quick answer and then The other piece of it is just lowering the barriers of entry for non-geospatial experts such that they can get going again without any such team in the loop.
And that means also that it opens up to all of those organizations that don't have geospatial teams at all. Now, there's all sorts of caveats with it. We're learning. It's just early days. But I think Planet is in a unique position with one of the most fantastic data sets that could be combined with LLMs to make an incredible offering that is differentiated in the marketplace entirely. I mean, again, all those LLM companies are focused on building real world models and to do that, they need real world data. And we have arguably the most incredible data set of real world data to train up that. And so we're focusing on doing that ourselves. Yeah, definitely. Great. And then on the pipeline, when you say 25% is near term, is near term like 12 months? And then also... within that near-term bucket, any color on regions that are more prominent? Yeah, what we mean by near-term is quarters, not years. And what we mean by, I mean, in terms of geography, I mean, at least three geographies of import, EMEA, APAC, and North America are all playing significantly into our pipeline. And yeah, I mean, we're very pleased to have about a billion dollars in that near-term bucket.
All right, thanks, and an impressive rule of 40 this quarter. Yeah, rule of 70.
Your next question comes from the line of Trevor Walsh with Citizens. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Great. Thanks all for taking the questions. Will, I wanted to maybe start with you around a comment you made for that $8 million deal with NGA. I think you had said that Planet was the only provider in the mix for that deal, which is impressive, not I think for any customer, but certainly for a U.S. government where that's not really the standard playbook. So I'm just maybe from like a broader competitive perspective, are you seeing that type of situation more where you guys are the only kind of game in town around certain deals or RFPs? and if so, what do you think might be driving that? Is that the bread and butter core ability of PlanetScope or other newer type of capabilities? Well, yeah, it's because of our daily scan. And we have seen it before in the case of the US Navy. That was also sole source awarded. Actually, they competed it the first time. But then once they realized what we had, they sole sourced it on the second time. So we have seen that on occasion. Obviously, governments do really prefer to have multiple vendors if they can.
So this really means they've checked all the boxes and checked that there's no other options. And Yeah, exactly. Underlying that is our daily scan, which is simply no one else does that. I mean, you can look this up. Anyone can look this up. No one has a sufficient number of Earth imaging satellites in the right kind of plane and all this to do a daily scan. And so if you want to monitor for new threats and monitor things consistently, we're the only game in town. Now, that doesn't mean there's not other market opportunities for tasking and other things. Obviously, we're playing in that game as well. But in that particular area, which especially in the security front is about finding new threats, we're kind of the only game in town. Got it. Helpful. Ashley, maybe for you, but we'll also feel free to chime in. I think kind of as I just looked over the last few quarters, it looked like D&I is now, I think, at a higher watermark in terms of total revenue contribution in the quarter, 70% disque, and then at the same time, international is kind of overtaking by a pretty good clip the North America business.
So just wondering how much of that is really just a function of Germany and J-SAT flowing, and maybe even the Swedish deal now flowing through the model, and that's just sort of a natural occurrence of those two metrics reaching those kind of higher contribution levels, or if or is that really more of like what the, you know, the story of planet is kind of in the future, kind of going forward, at least, is it more of an international DNI focused type of opportunity really that you guys are chasing ultimately? So you hit on it at the beginning of your question as we are realizing backlog into revenue and delivering against our satellite services contracts. That hits primarily international as well as defense and intelligence.
Now, Will talked about the fact that we just signed our first civil government satellite services deal in August. and we do think that there's a meaningful opportunity for us in in the civil government arena and We also see a lot of opportunity for growth in civil government and commercial generally with the daily scan plus AI highlighted the fact that we're seeing a lot of interest in data center monitoring across insurance, the energy sector and financial services. I read a report recently that by 2030, Thank you so much for joining us. and not requiring GIS experts in order to derive value from the data. Great. Thanks both for the questions.
Your next question comes from the line of Ryan Koontz with Needham & Co. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Great. Thanks for the question. and Greg Corder. Ashley, I wanted to ask you about the dynamics that we're seeing in RPO here, just to simplify it for us here. We're seeing a step down in total, but a real healthy step up in current RPO. Is this primarily driven by kind of progress on these set services deals, these big, large and dangerous deals you're just speaking about, or are there other trends at play here in terms of shorter duration contracts outside of those? Yeah, it's a really good question. Obviously the current RPO and current backlog is directly attributable to the fact that we are making progress against some of these larger contracts. And as we continue to execute, we absolutely expect to translate that from backlog into revenue. And then just generally speaking, we've talked about the fact that we're exploring new markets. So those are going to be more short term pilot deals and pilot opportunities. As we transition those into program of record, we would expect those to turn into longer term deals. So I think there's a bit of some and some on that.
But as Will said, there's also a lot of opportunity in our pipeline. And as we convert that, we'd certainly expect to continue to see backlog to grow. So it's going to be a little inconsistent quarter to quarter, other than the fact that we absolutely are executing against the backlog and transitioning that into revenue. Makes perfect sense. Thanks. Another question on maritime domain awareness. You guys have had a lot of success there. Are you seeing any changes in the competitive environment? I did see an announcement of one of your partners that's working with a competitor now. You can share about the competitive environment in maritime domain. Yeah, I mean, there are a number of companies out there doing the some of the analytics on top of data. But I mean, in terms of the core data set that it depends upon, again, we're the only one doing a daily scan. I mean, I mean, you know, we image 10s of millions of square kilometers of ocean territory, I mentioned the US Navy partnership, just in the last question, and that one alone images 13 million square kilometers of ocean territory.
Just to give you a sense, that's far more area coverage than any other, at least Western company doing earth imaging. That alone is bigger than the United States area of ocean territory that they are looking at. And so no one else is doing that. So yeah, so the underlying data set is core to that application. So there's a number of players, you know, playing on the top of the analytics, like combining AIS data, SAR data, R data, other sort of AI to predict ships and things like this. But they all need our data as far as I'm concerned. Got it. Thanks so much.
Thank you.
Your next question comes from the line of Michael Filatov with Barenburg. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Hi, Will, Ashley, Cleo. So just two questions for me. The first one, there's a view out there that some customers might ideally want a single provider across multiple sensing modalities. So optical, SAR, RF, thermal, you name it, rather than integrating point solutions themselves. So you've got Tanadro and Hyperspectral, but the core of the business remains optical. Can you talk about how you think about the idea of broadening the Sensor portfolio? And if you agree with that idea, whether that's primarily an organic development path for Planet or whether M&A could play a role with the balance sheet you've got now? And then I'll follow up with one more. Yeah, I mean, look, I think electro optic is the mainstay, biggest piece of the market when you look at that biggest areas of applications, biggest market across all the segments, I think, especially in civil government and commercial, it will be the biggest area of expansion as well.
Thank you very much. for them and others have done the same and so and we're willing to work with others and partner on that front and so we feel that we're in good position again daily scan is is hard on SAR because you would you would need a lot and there's a lot of power considerations that are much more power hungry and so the base change detection system we still think is the right right thing to focus on optical first so we think that's the core of the market we're focused on that we're partnerships um and other things in the other areas. Sure. And just a follow up on the image archive as an AI asset. One thing I'd like to understand a bit better is data consistency across generations. I assume spectral calibration varies across Dove, SkySat, Pelican fleets, and then archive spans, multiple hardware iterations. So how much sort of normalization work is required before that data is genuinely training ready for a given commercial model or for your customers to utilize? Yeah, well, I mean, we essentially make our data backwards compatible. So as we enhance it, we always make it such that you can get the subset of the previous iteration with it.
So doves, for example, had eight spectral bands, but they kept the four spectral bands of, sorry, super doves had eight of the doves had four, but they kept the same four. And We do a lot of calibration work. All of these fleets are calibrated to Landsat, Sentinel, MODIS. These are government missions that have high calibration accuracy that we calibrate our data to. So such that people can be assured that when they get an analytic feed from us in a next generation, they always can continue that. By the way, that is a huge barrier to entry because it's This sort of calibration is really hard and there's a huge archive involved. I think people often underestimate the value of our archive, but it's central to all of the applications. GMS, for example, relies that work with the NGA. Thank you very much. And so not only is our data unique in terms of the daily scan, it's unique because we have the archive. So even if someone had a daily scan suddenly today, they wouldn't have the archive to go back and find all these things for several years. So we've got quite a lead there.
I think people often underestimate that exact point that you made, which is the calibration over time so that you have a very high signal to noise ratio. That has been a very significant investment that Planet has made over the years and makes the change detection analytics that we do on top of the data valuable to our customers. Great. Thank you, guys.
Your next question comes from the line of Jeff Van Ree with Craig Hallam Capital Group. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Hey, guys, this is Daniel for Jeff. Maybe we'll start on the pipeline, the four billion new sovereign deal pipeline number you gave, which is huge and real impressive. Maybe if you could just give us any other context you can around that in terms of how that's been trending quarter over quarter, year over year. Any call-outs on the composition of that? Any concentrations, geography, otherwise? Is there any other context around that number? Very interesting. Yeah, I mean, so it's been growing in number of deals in total size. And I think the key thing we were trying to point out with the 1 billion part of it, the 25% of it is maturation. I also mentioned earlier, we have getting both smaller deals and bigger deals into the pot. So bigger than we had thought, and smaller than we had thought. So that's quite interesting. It's spreading out a little bit. And, and it's transitioned officially from just defense.
It was so into civil government, there was a few Other deals like the German one that are in the mix as well, although it's still mainly defense and intelligence ones, which we always wanted. We want our solutions to transition to civil government and commercial, and we want our consolation services to transition. We often think of DNI as our forward-leaning partner. So, yeah, we're very pleased with that momentum and to geography. Again, I said there's three geos that are really driving that. And it's it's pretty strong in all three of those. I wouldn't say there's one like outstanding place amongst them. helpful and then Ashley on the model and you know I take it to Q3 sequential revenue decline that's guided that that's probably due to the the step off in in one time since satellite services so that that makes sense as we look to Q4 then what's implied for Q4 looks like there's a real strong bounce back in the revenue if anything you wanted to call out there is that just sort of standard course you know deals are ramping over time or anything in particular to call out in terms of lumpy rev rec and any other rec events to call out in the balance of the year.
Yeah, no, I think you hit on it. Q2 was really about a step up due to the point-in-time revenue. And I expect there to, as we continue to sign more satellite services deals that will both increase the variability in the short term, but over the long term, probably normalize. In terms of the back half of this year, it's delivering against our backlog and really executing. And from... From there, it'll be landing and expanding with new business. So generally speaking, we feel very good about how business is trending. And I also wanted to point out, you saw that the gross margin went up and is sustaining up, and that's really great as well.
Our next question comes from the line of Noah Popinak with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Hello, everyone. How's it going? Good. Maybe just following up on that discussion there on the outlook for the rest of the year and the margins, I recognize you raised the EBITDA, but it implies lower margins in the back half versus the first half. Can you talk us through where in the cost structure that's happening, why that's happening, and maybe how we should think about how that progresses into next year? So not a significant change in margins, but you're right to call out that it is a modest decline in gross margins. And that's simply just mix of business. So we are continuing to drive scale overall in the business. That's the strength to our one to many business model. But, you know, again, Satellite services are going to be different margin profile depending on where we are in delivery across those deals. That'll impact the mix of business. And so you'll see some variability quarter to quarter on gross margin. We were obviously really pleased this quarter to still deliver 59% non-gap gross margins, even with a meaningful step up in delivery against our backlog.
Got it. Is there a way to think, Ashley, at this point about, you know, there was a long-term profitability framework provided, you know, in the company, you know, several years back, earlier days. Is there a way to think about the revenue base now after a lot of changes in the business and in strategy that's required to achieve that long-term profitability model? Yeah. There's not necessarily a minimum revenue if that's effectively what you're asking. We talked through last fall when we had our investor day, those same long-term financial targets and kind of how we see them evolving over time. We still see this as a business that can deliver very healthy, adjusted EBITDA profitability, so 25% plus, and with that healthy free cash flow dynamics. and gross margins. We amended that a bit to say north of 60% because it really is going to depend on that mix of business. But as we're demonstrating, even as we continue to fold more satellite services business into our revenue, we're maintaining high gross margins.
So you know generally speaking we are on track to continue to expand and the main thing right now is we see so much market opportunity that we are leaning into to that and investing across the board. Okay that's great and then just lastly for me on the on the CapEx increase could you just further detail a bit what's behind that it's a pretty large What is that for? yeah it's effectively um look see it as investments in pelican and owl so um as will highlight it it's it's it's strength of pipeline um we don't know ultimately how those deals will shake out in terms of dedicated capacity versus sovereign so as we are stepping up um investing and having that pelican capacity we operate under the assumption that those will be Robert Henry Schingler, Similarly, there's a lot of interest in OWL. So we announced this last year. We've been talking to our customers and understanding from them Thank you for joining us. Super helpful. Thank you so much. Thank you. In the interest of time, please limit yourself to one question as we continue our Q&A.
Your next question comes from the line of Christine Leweg with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Hi, this is Kyle Benvenuto on for Christine. Congrats on the quarter and thank you for taking my question. One on the balance sheet for you. You raised 120 million through the ATM during the quarter and you ended with roughly 865 million of cash in short-term investments while generating positive free cash flow. What changed in either the opportunity set or your investment requirements that made it attractive to increase The raise of equity here. And should we think of the capital as primarily supporting OWL and additional manufacturing capacity such as the CapEx increase you just discussed or for other strategic opportunities or simply just adding balance sheet flexibility? Thank you. Yeah, absolutely. I would really anchor it on the latter. It's that strategic balance sheet flexibility. You know, our target is on an annual basis to be free cash flow positive. So that means we're generating enough operating cash flow to support the CapEx investments in scaling up our next generation fleets. So, you know, we are... Very diligent about how we are adding that capital to the balance sheet, making sure that we're sensitive to dilution as we know our shareholders are. But at the same time, we want to be in a position to make strategic moves that can accelerate our market capture and make sure that we can deliver for the broadest customer base possible.
Your next question comes from the line of Greg Pendy with Clear Street. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Yeah, thanks a lot. So you've talked about the owl upgrade cycle. And I think, Will, you mentioned that it's 10 times more data. I assume that going from three to one and then the 2D area scaling is how you're getting the 10 times increase. But just how should we then translate that as analysis? I mean, is this mean that it's going to drive from a financial impact more usage or is it just, is there a price increase opportunity? Yeah, definitely a price increase opportunity. I mean, this is considerably more information and so it opens up more applications. Again, think of things like vehicles where a meter you can start telling more about the type or even ID vehicles. I'll give you a specific example in maritime domain awareness. We can typically ID the vessel if it's under 30, if it's over 30 meters in size. At that point, we can actually say it's this vessel with this IMO number, which is really helpful. Smaller vessels we can see, but we can't ID them. If it's one metre, you would expect that roughly to divide in three so that you can see a 10 metre vessel.
That's really important because there's a lot of fishing vessels and other things that are in that sort of 10 to 30 metre class. So it's things like that. It opens up more opportunities, different kinds of applications. In that case, going from military ships to maybe submarines. commercial ships and fishing vessels and things like that so it opens up other applications so definitely and we already have customers interested in that and for sure they're expecting the prices to go up The other thing that OWL delivers, which we'll highlight, excuse me, highlighted is that it's 10 times faster. So we're incorporating into the satellite things like AI capabilities, being able to do that onboard detection and analysis, as well as satellite to satellite communication, which can enable the data to get back to our customers faster. So it's on multiple vectors that this is much more valuable data to our customers. And so, yes, we would certainly expect that to be commensurate in terms of the price we can charge. Very exciting. Thanks a lot.
Thank you.
Your next question comes from the line of Gabriel Floret with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Good afternoon. Thank you for the question. This is Gabriel Floret on for Colin. How does the team's balance of domestic opportunities range across the Pentagon's FY26 budget, FY27 CR, and FY27 requests? To what extent can we see planet programs put left as program officers drive balance in commercial offerings? Well, great question. This administration is really leaning into commercial solutions. And one of the interesting pieces also, especially ones where the company has already gone and invested and is building the system already. So the government gets to just benefit from that. And then they're really leaning in. and we see it across the board there's substantial programs that we have our eye on this year is coming in their government FY27 and that hasn't yet passed through Congress so we'll be tracking all of that and how it results after reconciliation but just know that there are meaningful expansion of commercial type operational budgets across the board, NGA, NRO for the intelligence community, the department itself. So it's getting a lot of budgets for new spac