Q1 2026 Earnings Call — April 23, 2026
Analyst Tori Sandberg (Stiefel): Thank you, and congrats on the momentum here. Kishore, you mentioned optical DSP revenue now tracking to 150 to 170. I think that's about $30 million, $40 million higher than what you had expected before. Just wondering, you know, what transpired, you know, in per quarter, you know, to see such a, you know, steep increase. Is there new customers? Are you basically just seeing steeper ramp at existing customers? You know, any more color you can add on that additional revenue would be great. Thank you.
Executive Kishore: At the time when we set the guidance, we obviously are looking at a number of ramps, at a number of customers, and we were being conservative. And at the same time, we were also fairly optimistic internally that we should be seeing strong growth coming in the latter half of this year. Now, with all the visibility and the lead times that are necessary for providing the product, we have very good visibility. The ramps are setting in very nicely, both across 400 gig and 800 gig solutions. So I just think it's all about timing of the ramps and the success of the calls and our ability to scale up to meet the demand, the surging demand we are seeing now.
And as a follow-up for you, Steve, so you mentioned that prepayment for wafer capacity. I'm just wondering, are you sort of done with that now? Or, you know, should we expect more cash outflows in the coming quarters? And I also noticed you increased the revolver by 30 million. So, you know, anything you can say here on the balance sheet and cash position going forward? Thank you.
Executive Steve: Consistent with what we raised back in Q4 of last year, we knew we would have some working capital needs kind of going in Q4 as well as Q1, so that certainly played out the way that we expected. Are we through it entirely? I mean, I guess to some degree it depends on how much demand continues to improve, right? As that demand improves, certainly we may continue to see some prepayments, but we do, you know, you'll start to see this inflect as the revenues increase. Second part of your question on the revolver, yeah, we did have a revolver that was expiring in June. So, we renewed the revolver. We did, took it up slightly, a pretty minor move for the size of the company and the direction of the company.
Analyst Joe Quattrari (Wells Fargo and Co.): Thanks for taking the question. Maybe just to follow up on that, I guess, you know, can you talk about just your supply chain and capacity to support the growth that you're seeing? You know, clearly the mix of your growth is a bit different than maybe previously when you were at kind of similar revenue levels.
Executive Kishore: I mean, look, I mean, I don't think it's any surprising when there's some supply constraints out there. But, I mean, I think we planned well for this and worked really closely with the partners on this front. I think we've seen really good success, and we expect to continue to see that going forward.
Okay. And then as a follow-up, can you talk maybe a little bit about the puts and takes on the gross margin guidance? You know, why wouldn't we see maybe a little bit more leverage on the sequential revenue step up that's pretty significant here?
Executive Steve: Yeah, no, I mean, obvious question. I think this is consistent with what we've been seeing. You've heard my caution on this, Joe, and it's a little bit of the input cost. So certainly there's some concerns out there, waiver costs, packaging, et cetera, are moving up. A lot of cases, you know, the industry, ourselves included, have been able to pass along these costs. And so we expect that to be the case. But just kind of given the uncertainty out there, I think we just want to remain cautious. But you're absolutely right from the understanding that the infrastructure business typically does drive a higher gross margin. So we're very optimistic as we look out, you know, the rest of this year and even into next year in that being a positive influence on our gross margins.
Analyst Tim Savage (Northland Capital Markets): Hi, and congrats on the results and especially guidance. Question on the infrastructure side, and I know that's mostly data center driven, but looks like you grew something, you know, mid-30s sequentially in Q1. And I imagine data center was a big driver there. Given what you're guiding to, do you expect some sequential growth of a similar magnitude in Q2 infrastructure?
Executive Kishore: Yeah, I think, Tim, from my standpoint, I mean, we obviously didn't, we don't typically guide in markets in that level of detail. We did say that it was going up. We did emphasize in our prepared remarks that I mean, as we look at this year, now clearly the infrastructure business has much bigger growth drivers. We have a lot of new products that are ramping with some new customers. So we would certainly expect infrastructure to be a much bigger driver of growth in the coming year.
Okay. And to follow up once again, given the step up we're seeing in Q2, do you have any comments about overall revenue growth expectations for 26? Looks like we could be tracking, I don't know, 35, 40%, but any comment from the company?
Executive Kishore: Yeah, I mean, look, we only got one quarter, and we're not going to change that here today. We are very excited about the growth potential that we have and these new customers and the new product ramps. And, yeah, so I think – and, frankly, with the visibility that we have, we start to roll into 27 as well. I mean, I think we're excited to see the growth in 26 and even backlog starting to build into 2027.
Analyst: Yeah, good afternoon, guys. Really appreciate the question. And yeah, congrats on doing all the work to get to this place with DSP. It's cool to see it play out.
Executive Kishore: You guys are very welcome.
Analyst: Kishore, you mentioned, just this first question is a DSP question. You mentioned to one of the prior questions that around magnitude of step up and guide that you guys had baked in some conservatism, sort of that program start ramp here, and that that contributed to sort of the magnitude of step up and guide. Can you guys tell though – I guess what I'm also – what I'm wanting to ask is can you tell if the market ramp feels bigger than what you guys had originally anticipated as distinct of conservatism? And I guess what I'm just – let me just ask that question. Do you have any sense that if the market ramp feels bigger, if the market TAM feels bigger? And then I have a quick follow-up as well. Thanks.
Executive Kishore: So let me answer the first question. Obviously, the TAM expansion is real, or the SAM expansion even more so, the PAM4 DSP expansion is very real as both, you know, U.S. and China Harper scalers are deploying very, very rapidly. And depending on the architecture implementation, the amount of PAM4 DSPs use can vary completely based on the GPU configurations. And so scale up and scale are both equally growing very strongly. So the extent that we are conservative, it's in the balance of thing that's our general positioning as a company, right? So I don't think that's behaviorally any different from us. Do we expect more upsides? Absolutely. We do expect more upsides. That is compensated all the programs reaching full run rates. So I hope that answers the first question.
So your second question, please.
Analyst: Oh yeah, on Panther. You had mentioned Panther benefiting from some of the memory dynamics in the marketplace. Can you just walk us through is that walking through the ways in which Panther is holistically benefiting? Is it as simple as, you know, memory's short, Panther provides performance, and you've been waiting here at Panther as well, so you're benefiting? Or are there more sophisticated, nuanced reasons as well that Panther is benefiting?
Executive Kishore: Yeah. You know, there's always obviously been sophisticated nuance to Panther, right? And now, of course, memory is fashionable, right? Not three years ago when we got punished for some of our actions. But, you know, 60% of the data center spend is in memory. But all memory is not equal. As the AI engine moves forward, accelerates, low latency, high capacity memory access is super important. So the big benefit of Panther is it's an accelerator, so it reduces latency dramatically and the power efficiency that brings to it, so it enables much more capability than just a memory compression, right? So I really feel that the performance part related to low latency, high bandwidth access enablement that Panther provides is the key differentiator.
Thus far, our use of Panther has been really at the enterprise appliance level, if you will, but now these enterprise storage appliances are getting increasingly deployed into mainstream cloud centers. So I really feel there's much more to come with Panther 5 and Panther 6 in the future, and this is just the beginning of our Panther roadmap product family. So we expect this year the revenues to double. We have said that before. And hopefully next year as well, we got very strong growth based on the visibility we have.
With all that said, do you feel bigger about the ultimate TAM potential for Panther? Big picture.
Executive Kishore: In the big picture, you know, absolutely Panther has a lot of potential. But Panther as it is today, would not be sufficient, right? The world and the deployment models evolve, so there'll be more investment required, but the TAM is pretty huge, and we just have to keep on converting more of the TAM into our SAM, and that will drive our roadmap.
Analyst Christopher Rowland (Susquehanna International Group): Hey guys, thanks for the question. Congrats on the strong results and I apologize if this was asked, but in your prepared remarks or actually in the press release you talked about for optical multiple hyperscalers and previously I think your messaging around optical was it was very broad-based. I think, you know, at OFC we see all the design wins across so many different optical vendors. But this seems like it's a big change and might be changing customer concentration. Perhaps if you could talk a little bit about that. Are you now diversifying around these key hyperscaler opportunities? Is it like one or two or all of them? And... And, yeah, if you could elaborate a little bit as to what seems like is a pretty meaningful change here, that would be great.
Executive Kishore: It is pretty broad-based, our design, because all the module vendors in the world, so we have designs. We've always maintained that we have designs across all the module vendors. It's taken a while to map the module vendors' victories with the various end data centers while we ourselves had to sort of do the business development work that creates the pull for various module vendors. So even at the end, customers, it's pretty broad-based. Obviously, we'll be concentrating on a few during the ramps, and as the ramp expands into 2027, we'll have other data centers that come online. But even as we speak now, it's a pretty broad-based success. Is there more work to do to expand further? Yes, I think we are only halfway there to our – end data center diversification across all the hyperscalers. So there's more work to be done, but what Keystone provides is an affirmative statement of Max Glee's ability to successfully get through the interops, supply product at scale. Remember, we were worried about our ability to supply. And provided a scale where it's very confidence-boosting in terms of our credibility as a world-class chip supplier.
Analyst Christopher Rowland: Thank you for that, Kishore. Maybe a quick follow-up, I guess. If you could perhaps talk about... 1.6T, like how you think design wins and the ramp will go there is 800, just kind of the beginning. You know, they're qualifying on 800, and then they have plans to use you guys at 1.6, and they've communicated these plans. And then you also mentioned scale up, optical for scale up. In your press release as well, I don't think there's a huge transceiver usage for scale up right now, mostly scale out, so if you could talk about that and what that means for you guys that'd be great as well.
Executive Kishore: So, you hit many, many number of topics here, right? So there are going to be different deployment models for scale up to start with, right? There are many, many different product categories on scale-up that are discovered. Having said that, the optical transceivers, 30% of the market is for scale-up, right? And that's a pretty substantial part of the TAM, and 70% is for scale-out today. Our participation in scale-up derives from, you know, from the optical transceivers as well as now the new offering in 1.6 terabit for electrical retimers, which is onboard retimers, and for the active electrical cables as well. Those are all scale-up-based applications.
So, I hope that answers your question of where our scale-up opportunities are coming from. They're really in that 30% of the TAM I talked about. So moving forward to 1.6T, the critical thing to keep in mind is that, you know, there is enormous confidence out there. We're shipping Keystone to major data centers today, and they're ramping very strongly in 2026. And we are now rolled out our 1.6 terabit Rushmore product in Annapurna family for electrical applications. And I think that this level of execution apart and the success with the cloud relationships, module partnerships, and the call and interrupt completion is creating a far more pull for our 1.6G participation than I would have guessed at this point in time.
So in a sense, we hope that by the end of the year, we'll have called them 1.6T and start transitioning, not transitioning, I just want to keep this point that 800G 1.6 terabits will probably be one of the most long-lasting interconnect applications in the data center world. So having 1.6T will actually expand our ability to garner more revenues and more market share.
Analyst Richard Shannon (Craig Hallam Capital Markets): Well, thanks, guys, for taking my question. Maybe I'll follow up on the topic of DSP here and ask a question a slightly different way here, which is obviously your 400 and 800 gig with Keystone are going very well. And I've heard some relatively positive comments about Rushmore so far here. I'd love to get a sense here since it seems like you're gaining some very nice share in Rushmore here, excuse me, in Keystone. To what degree is this conveying directly or could it convey directly to success in Rushmore? And how do you view the potential revenue trajectory over a period of time relative to what you've seen so far with Keystone?
Executive Kishore: Thank God for Keystone, right? So it's, you know, everything valuable takes a long time. It has taken us a long journey through two, three generations of investment. Now we are into Rushmore. And the success of Keystone makes us an incumbent, right? And the power of incumbency is the ability to have the relationships with the cloud customers, the module makers, the confidence in your ability to supply, and the quality of your product. On the 1.6 terabit solution, I dare say we are in the top tier on the performance category. And our customers acknowledge that. So they are readily going to develop solutions that would be quickly, you know, move to the next phase with calls, et cetera, with the data center folks.
As you know, we are not the first ones with 1.6 terabit relative to our incumbent competitors, two of them. So I really feel it bodes very, very well. And with 1.6 terabit, you expect the ASPs to increase, right? So clearly for the same units or even expanding units that are happening, the TAM dollars substantially increase. So as the mix becomes more and more 1.6 terabit, I really believe that it'll have an uplifting effect on our revenues and gross margins, even as our market share expands.
Okay, Kishore, thanks for that detail. My following question is on the cable and broadband space here. Just generally, I'd love to get a sense of your expectations for the trajectory of this year. Last call, you talked about a soft first half. Certainly, your starting point shows that here. And then talking about calendar 2016 being down, which I completely believe here. But I want to get a sense of any update on that and whether you have any visibility into when DOCSIS 4.0 starts to have an impact.
Executive Kishore: Right. You know, we had a spectacular growth here in 25 for broadband grew about 75 percent. And so we had a pullback in Q1, which is also some seasonality built into it. But happy to say that looking forward, all our businesses are growing, actually, you know, which is sort of a tailwind that we, as our data center-centric and infrastructure revenues grow, we also have other segments of our diversified portfolio really generating some positive momentum as well. So I'm happy to share that we expect our broadband business to continue to start growing from Q2 and into 2027.
And I think cable DOCSIS 4.0 certifications that happen, but some of the operators are still delayed on their network readiness. However, a big growth is coming with UltraDocs in 3.1 and 4.2 into 2027. The one thing that's happened post-COVID is that, you know, during the down period, right, we have been winning market share in broadband, which bodes very well for our fiber play. In fact, fiber pawn business continues to grow through Q1, Q2. And we started major deployment with the major tier one operator in North America. And that's happening in the second half of the year, for which we've already done pre-shipments. And then later we have European deployments. I think it's all good. It's all growing, and we've been waiting for a time to recover through the COVID slowdown. I think we feel very good about that.
Analyst Carl Ackerman (BNP Paribas Asset Management): Yes, thank you. I have two qualifications, if I may. Kishore, we're just going back to the – you spoke briefly about cable and broadband just now, but could you be more specific with respect to the June quarter guide? It seems like most of the growth is coming from infrastructure, but can you talk about what your outlook is for broadband, connectivity, and multi-market, and whether they can all grow on a sequential basis in June quarter two?
Executive Steve: Carl, yeah, thanks for the question. Yeah, I think we mentioned earlier – All four end markets will be up. I mean, I do expect, you know, a lot of that growth to be from infrastructure, just seeing the inflection that we're seeing from particularly some of the data center products. So, yeah, that is our expectation.
Analyst Carl Ackerman: Got it. Okay. And then just to follow up on Chris's earlier question, is much of your optical DSP growth coming from hyperscaler-owned designs, and therefore you are qualifying with them directly? Or is your hyperscaler exposure predominantly through module vendors providing a merchant solution?
Executive Kishore: Both.
Analyst Quinn Bolton (Needham & Co.): Thank you, guys. Let me offer my congratulations on the nice results and outlook. Kishore, I guess I wanted to follow up on Tim's question earlier about just the breadth of the growth in the infrastructure business and Q1. Was it predominantly from the optical DSPs or did you see a good contribution from Panther, the wireless access products as well?
Executive Steve: Quinn, I'll jump in here on this one. Look, so really across the board, I mean, we saw some really good growth from all of the products within the infrastructure segment. I would say from here, you start to see kind of data center really break out. I mean, the other product lines absolutely contribute. Kishore mentioned earlier about Panther. Panther is going extremely well. Wireless infrastructure, which was pretty soft last year, talked about the improvements. We expect to see more of that this year. I mean, those are probably the top three or four products there.
Got it. And then I know sometimes gross margin takes a couple of quarters to reflect your product mix because you've got a flow product, you know, sitting in inventory, but you had a, you know, I think 30-ish percent increase in infrastructure in the quarter, maybe a 25% decrease in broadband quarter-on-quarter. I would have thought that would have been a nice tailwind for you. Gross margins were relatively flat. So just wondering, was there anything that sort of held back a gross margin given the mixed shift, or do you think it's just sort of a timing issue? Obviously, the go-forward look and the mixed infrastructure sounds like it's a nice tailwind to gross margin, just trying to think when we might start to see it show up in the income statement.
Executive Steve: Yeah, look, I mean, we came in, you know, more like right at our guidance, what we had talked about. The mix is definitely continuing to improve. I mentioned a little earlier in a separate question about just input costs. I think we're just trying to be cautious as we look forward. But I do, just as you stated, yes, I do believe it's a tailwind, especially as you move into 800 gig, 1.6T, all of those have higher gross margins. So we will certainly continue to see nice benefits on the gross margin side as infrastructure gets to be a larger percentage of our business.
Analyst Suji De Silva (Roth Capital Partners): Hi, Kishore. Hi, Steve. Congratulations on the progress here. You talked about 2Q, some of the optical stepping up here. Are the programs all commencing RAMP, or are the other programs phasing in and starting in 3Q, 4Q, just to give us a set of layers across the year, or really are we in RAMP for all of the key programs already?
Executive Kishore: Hi, Suji. There are different product cycles with different RAMPs, and they're all kicking in now, and there'll be some more that'll catch up later in the end of the year. So, you know, it really took a while for them all to start deploying with the drop calls and everything complete, so now we're strengthening, we're seeing strength in each of these layerings based on the bookings we have.
Okay, that's helpful, Kishore. Thank you. And then, Kishore, you mentioned in the prepared remarks, I believe I heard wireless infrastructure having playing a part in data center connectivity, maybe data center interconnect or something along those lines. Can you help us understand that opportunity and how big that is as a niche or can that become a mainstream opportunity?
Executive Kishore: Yep. You know, if you look at the prepared remarks, I talked about 5G access and transport, and you have seen a number of announcement investments where there's a lot of AI at the edge and AI-enabled network infrastructure. So we see a lot of the telecom infrastructure people on the wireless now gathering some momentum about deployment increases, and especially that means that it changes the transport overhaul, backhaul stuff, as well as certain elements of the access will change as well. So this should all provide us a tailwind on the wireless infrastructure infrastructure.
Now, the growth mechanisms in wireless infrastructure, the rates of RAMPs will never match those of the data centers. However, you now started seeing, you saw the announcement between NVIDIA and, you know, Marvell, and you're seeing now genuine interest to move towards AI in the DU side of the network on the edge in the wireless side as well. So we should definitely benefit as being one of the top two players in the wireless infrastructure space.
Analyst: Okay, very helpful, Kishore, thanks. Operator, do we have one more question?
Analyst Tori Sandberg (Stiefel): Yeah, thank you. Just two quick follow-ups, especially on your new products. So, Kishore, first of all, on Annapurna, obviously this starts with 1.6T, but I'm just wondering, you know, if you could talk a bit about Max Center's positioning there. Are you going to go after all the standards? Obviously, there's Ethernet standards, there's UA-Linked. Are you going to participate perhaps also with some end-to-end fusion protocols? Just trying to understand exactly where you're trying to intersect the market with Annapurna, especially in the retail world.
Executive Kishore: Especially, you know, I know there's a lot of hoopla about AECs because of success of one very successful company on AECs. But if you look at the market size opportunity for a silicon player, the AEC, the retimer market electrical for AI scale it inside the compute server is humongous as the speeds increase. So you're going to see a lot of retimers. Currently, our retimer offering is Ethernet-based, naturally. However, the fundamental physics and the challenges of doing a very, very demanding PHY for the electrical retimer application is done now. So with regard to adding the various standards, that's just an interface game. Now, you can imagine this also lends itself to, you know, other chiplet sort of stories and things like that. So we're laying the framework and the groundwork of building a platform from which we'll have the optionality chase where the SAM and the TAM goes. So at this point, we are in the electrical retimer market for Ethernet-based application.
Analyst Tori Sandberg: That's very helpful. And on Washington, I mean, I assume that obviously gets sold with either Keystone or Rushmore, but are you seeing designs as well where your KIAs are perhaps participating on other people's DSP platforms?
Executive Kishore: Right now, Rushmore and Washington are sampling. Customers are using them, but they're very, very excited about the performance. But honestly, I mean, the TIA is beyond the TIA for Rushmore, right? If you think of an LPO strategy, the TIA is a fundamental block. If you think about, you know, LRO strategy, the TIA is a fundamental block. And, you know, Max Day is very well known for his great RF analog skills. So the CPO markets, if they're going to be bare bones, then, you know, the TIA and drive is a natural fit. If they go more sophisticated on the half DSB-based one, we already have the platform offering. But the real question comes as you go towards XPOs, CPOs, and the various manifestations of it. So the full offering is super important. So Washington is the first step in the direction of a fundamental platform that will have multiple derivatives and incarnations.
Analyst Tim Savage (Northland Capital Markets): Thanks. Quick follow-up for me as well. And that's on the hyperscale win for PON, which sounds like the data center management stuff. I guess, can you talk a little bit more about the timing there and how significant this opportunity? When would you expect this design win to ramp? Could it be a needle mover of some sort? Thanks.
Executive Kishore: So absolutely, you know, we just secured the win, so we expect a ramp. It is a lot of, you know, qualification that goes through it. So sometime in 27, it ramps, starts ramping. But how big that can be today, I think, you know, this is one of the first of its kind sort of, you know, what I call a very, very interesting development where the data centers are seeing the value of a dedicated, reliable link to control the entire data center network, right? So we expect this time to expand to over hundreds of millions of dollars, but currently our expectation that at our revenues, it's going to be quite a bit of needle mover, even in the next year itself, in the second half on a run rate basis.
Analyst Richard Shannon (Craig Hallam Capital Markets): Hi, guys. Just have one follow-up from me here, and let's dig in a little bit on the TSP side here. I want to get a sense of how big the other applications outside of what most people assume, and I certainly do, would be the duplex optical DSP being a big part of it, but how could the rest of that business, that LOR, LPO, CPO, AEC, Retimer, et cetera, how big can that be in a year or two? Can that be 10 or even 20% of that total portfolio? Any sense of that would be great. Thank you.
Executive Kishore: So, you know, we're still in the early innings of how this whole market is going to play out, whether it's CPOs or whether it is, I know people get excited, but still, I think we are three years or out away from determining that. At this point, it's a very small share of the market from a unit's point of view, okay, from a silicon unit's point of view. So I don't expect it to be a huge part of our revenues, but from a TAM-wise, I would rate the optical transceiver DSPs to be the number one TAM, substantially overwhelming the rest. Second would be electrical retimers when that happens, and the third would be AECs. And AECs is C as we go story because there is a certain level of point-in-time application nature to the AEC, and that itself will evolve. So I would rank them in that order, but at this point it's going to be massively overwhelmed by revenues in the optical transceiver PAM4DSP.