Q1 2026 Earnings Call — May 13, 2026
Mark Strauss (JPMorgan): Good morning. Thank you very much for taking our question. I just want to start with Frontier Power. I just want to make sure I'm thinking about this right. The initial investment from EOS and from Cerberus, can you talk about how many gigawatt hours that would finance? And then to the extent that this does indeed grow like you envisioned, can you just talk about kind of the capital stack for future projects, what the equity check would look like, and what EOS's potential contribution to that equity check would be? Would you continue to participate or would the ownership percentage kind of dwindle down over time?
Management: Thanks, Mark. I think the initial, as we discussed, the initial capital cycle we're thinking about is leveraging that with debt. We're targeting around a five times leverage. That's going to depend on where we come in. On the rights offer, I think on the incremental questions of future investment and equity where we go from there. Like, look, the program is designed to recycle capital in from the returns on projects to continue to grow. You know, it's the classic flywheel that I talked about in my prepared comments. But I think it's a little bit too early to talk about what we would do as we're launching the platform, what we would do in the future here. So we'll take that as it comes. But we're very excited about being able to pull everything together because it's going to speed up discussions as we go through the pipeline and opportunities that we have and get us to faster order closure.
Okay. Okay, thank you. And then just a quick kind of accounting follow-up, I guess. Given the 49% equity, yeah, 49% stake, can you talk about the rev rec as you're delivering products? Will you recognize that fully in the income statement? Is there any kind of below-the-line adjustments we should be thinking about?
Management: Yeah, I think this would be a typical equity investment. The revenue would come through the income statement just like it would if it was a direct sale to a third-party customer. The only difference would be we will break it out as a related party line up at the top of the income statement. But otherwise, you will see the full impact of the revenue in the income statement. Yeah, Mark, I think it's important just to note it's arm's length. Frontier will have their own board of directors. They'll have their own management team, which will be announcing here shortly. I'm pretty excited about the people that we're talking to come in and run this, but everything will be fully negotiated, as was the capacity reservation agreement for the two gigawatt hours from a pricing standpoint, down payment, and terms on that contract. It's all done as an independent company, independent third party. With our minority stake in that, obviously the minority stake will be treated from a frontier standpoint below the line.
Thank you.
Martin Malloy (Johnson Rice and Company): Thank you. Congratulations on all the progress. My first question is on Frontier Power. Just wanted to try to maybe get a sense of customer conversations that you've had around this and how soon we should anticipate offtake agreements or project announcements utilizing this structure?
Management: Yeah, look, I think this is, as Joe talked about in his prepared remarks, we have a number of customer opportunities in our pipeline that are working on financing as one of the critical components of a successful project. This creates an attractive alternative for financing, a lower cost to capital, given the way we're structuring this. So we're going to make the introductions to a number of customers. You see in the initial pipeline, there's a handful of projects that we're in active discussions on right now. I think there's a good chance we will be delivering on volume associated with some of those initial projects in 2026. But this really builds momentum going into 2027 and beyond as well.
And Marty, I think the big thing here I'd like to talk about, the advantage that it gives us is, you know, we were doing the lion's share of this work on a lot of the opportunities in the pipeline, but doing that transactionally on a project-by-project basis, this now gives us a structured platform with the insurance wrap, raise the debt, get investment grade characteristics, have an equity stake, allow our shareholders to participate in the returns on financing, and really accelerate the conversations because you're not going through the process of, let me apply, let me then pick my technology, then let me go through and understand my revenue stack, then let me go into my financing, then let me go and do how I'm gonna construct and build and go through that process to get to the first discharge cycle off the system. We think with this setup, we're gonna be able to accelerate all that because we'll bring a pre-structured solution to customers as they come with projects for us to be able to sell our technology into.
Okay, that's very helpful. And then for a follow-up question, just wanted to ask about reaching adjusted gross profit margin positive. I believe previously you'd said second half 26, and with the operational improvements that you cited, can you give us an update there and degree of confidence in reaching that?
Management: Yeah, Marty, I mean, we're still targeting gross margin, adjusted gross margin positive later this year, really driven by a lot of the things that John talked about in his remarks. He's making great progress on cost out both materials, direct labor. And then as we get the Thornhill facility up and running, continue to see improvements in indirect labor and overhead and throughput as well. So that's really the driver of it. And we believe we will achieve positive adjusted EBITDA before the end of this year.
Great. Thank you. I'll turn it back.
Hannah Velazquez (Jefferies): Hey, thank you. Good morning. This is Hannah Velazquez on for Julian. Congrats on the quarter and congrats on the Frontier Power announcement. Similar to my other peers, I had a question on that one. So just to give us a sense of the backlog impact I realize the 2.6 gigawatt hours that you announced is as of quarter end, but what would your backlog be if we included the frontier power addition? Is it as simple as adding the two gigawatt hours or is it on a project by project basis? I'm really trying to get a sense of what 2Q could look like from a backlog expansion perspective.
Management: Yeah, look, I think it's too early to give where the backlog is going to be because there's other things in motion. What we said was, you know, you don't do it on a one-for-one basis because there's a project in backlog that will probably be converted and financed through Frontier, as I said in my prepared remarks, but we're not prepared today to give a midpoint or a forecast on backlog at the end of the quarter.
Okay, thank you. And just as a follow-up question separately on ASPs, I know you talked a bit about the downward trend line being attributed to mix, but is a portion of that downward or that deflation related to the competitiveness of lithium iron phosphate? Any detail there would be helpful, especially to get a sense of where ASPs could trend longer term.
Management: I think looking at the pipeline is the best indication of where we see longer-term trends. And it's really driven by larger-scale projects that we're currently quoting within Density Core and the associated efficiencies gained with those larger-scale projects. But I think the best view of longer-term ASPs from our perspective is what you see in the pipeline. I mean, those are active projects that we're actively bidding on, and that's how we're looking at it.
Thank you.
Patrick Ouellette (Stifel): Hey, it's Pat for Steven. Thanks for taking the questions. You reiterated the initial production for the second line for the end of 2Q. Just curious if you could touch on any key steps between now and then, whether that's yields, throughputs, things like that, and then how you're thinking about the ramp of the second line through the second half of the year.
Management: Yeah, and I think that before John jumps in and goes through where we are on that, what I would say is when we go for our weekly review of progress up there, the team is making phenomenal progress in bringing the lineup. And every week it looks like a totally different facility from the week before. And in fact, this week we had a candidate come in to interview for a position at EOS who was a customer, and they had been in Turtle Creek, and the interview started off with, I'm really impressed by what I saw because I was here two years ago. When can I start? And I think those are the types of things you like to hear where people have reference points, and I think John and the team has done a great job positioning us to be able to deliver, and you see it in the numbers, but I'll turn it over to John to talk through where he's at with the program of really implementing lean manufacturing as the way we work.
John (Title): Yeah, so the line's completely installed. We're powering up all sections and doing debug currently. So we're on track to basically start production in June.
Okay, thank you. And so with the second line coming online and the rollout of Frontier USA, is there a way you're thinking about production and deployment off the two lines together and allocates allocated just say to existing backlog and to the Frontier USA?
Management: Yeah, so I think, look, a little bit early to comment on that one. We've got a range in the revenue, and that ties to how the lines ramp. What we're being very careful of is how the lines ramp up before making a commitment, really seeing what's happening. We feel really good about it, but we want to see where we're at. We have a lot of optionality that we're going through and looking at as far as running two lines in two facilities, running one line in one facility, potentially future consolidation into one facility. Those are things we're going to be working on here over the next couple months, and we'll come back with news on that as we solidify our plans around what we're going to do.
Understood. Thanks a lot.
Jeff Osborne (TD Cowan): Thank you. Just two from my side. Nathan or Joe, I'm trying to understand, since you brought up project financing, that seems to be a big topic on the call. Can you just walk through what the historical challenges were around traditional project finance with traditional banks and then what led you to this structure? I'm just trying to understand what those obstacles were and then if that's ever an avenue for future growth beyond the frontier USA.
Management: Jeff, we would continue. I wouldn't call it obstacles. What I would say is we're coming at this with a pre-engineered solution. So the same banks that we're talking about will be the same people that provide debt into Frontier Power. What we've structured around this is instead of doing this on a transaction-by-transaction basis, we're doing it on a platform basis where you have the debt there wrapped by the insurance. So rather than going in, understanding, talking to the bank, bringing in Ariel Green, we had all the elements there before. We're putting it in a structure now where we can offer it faster and in an offering that allows the customers to get to closing and start an NTP notice to proceed faster. I think when you look at this, we're excited about where we are because near term, the frontier pipeline far exceeds any implied, going back to the earlier question, any implied capital raise in the platform. We've got a pipeline of opportunities that allow us to move faster and bring in expertise to help us close the job, close projects. At the same time, it allows us on the EOS technical stack to really focus on running the company, executing, delivering, taking costs out, building and improving around our controls architecture and Don OS, and having alongside of us a financial team and financial experts that can help us accelerate those conversations with customers.
Got it. And then just switching gears, you mentioned the Southeast utility. I think there was a large project last summer in 2025 that went live earlier this year. Can you just walk through what's specifically involved to move an existing project that's already installed and, you know, producing electrons at a four-hour pace, moving to 10 and then installing Don OS? Is that, you know, a complete overall of the power electronics, but the battery array and systems themselves are in place and not changed? It's just unclear what led to that change.
Management: Yeah. Yeah. So Jeff, it depends. So like, like there's like, there's a couple of things in the question, so I'll try thinking one by one. So a four to 10 hour system with EOS, there's nothing to change other than the way you operate the system. That's the beauty of the technology. The upgrade to Don OS, that's a change out of the soft, the software. Obviously we need the new printed circuit boards installed on the equipment. And there are, depending on the generation of technology, like we've talked about, like we've evolved our BMS over time for the Z3. There's three configurations out there. Depending on what configuration you have, like configuration one and two, you've got to change the wiring plus the boards. Configuration three is boards, and you run the BMS. We do this on a project-by-project basis, but the performance that it unlocks and delivers to the customer warrants us doing this. Like we ran a, as an example, we ran a one hour cycle yesterday, one hour at 84% round trip efficiency. That's the type of performance we want to deliver in the market. And it's going to open up new revenue, revenue stacks for our customers and also allow us to put more product out in the field.
Perfect. Very quickly, one last follow-up on Frontier. I think Bloom did something similar years ago with Southern Company and had challenges around field performance. Can you just acknowledge what the reliability requirements are as part of Frontier Power as it relates to how your units have been running the last year or so relative to the expectations of that financial structuring? Is there any material changes that need to play out as it relates to field reliability over time?
Management: No, Jeff, none at all. And I think we've just got to be careful here. The technology, the underlying technology in the batteries work. As I talked about in my prepared comments, this is unlocking the performance that were in the batteries with the software that we need. Now, what's interesting is we've brought some people in to work inside the company that have many years of experience owning and operating lithium ion systems. And lithium-ion has the same thing that we're talking about. What our new project lead says is that she remembers moving lithium-ion battery packs around the balance. You don't need to do that with our system. So this is something that's there, and we think our software controls and unlocks performance that isn't there for other technologies. And one of the challenges that we had in our first generation that we put out on the Z3 is for speed to market, we installed an underlying printed circuit board, and a core BMS that was used in lithium-ion. It just doesn't match up and give us the level of granularity you need to maximize performance.
So getting a system, Jeff, that can go from a one-hour at 83% round-trip efficiency up to a 10-hour, 12-hour discharge that then gets up approaching the 90s, to be able to do that on one system, as far as we know, there aren't any other products out there that can do that. You're talking about like if you look at a flow battery, like a vanadium flow battery, very low footprint power density. And what we do, 6.4 megawatt hours, a vanadium battery probably does under a half a megawatt at 50% round trip efficiency. We're in the mid-80s on regular cycles. So we like the performance that we have. We like what the team is developing. And we like having Frontier Power alongside of us to accelerate decisions. And yes, as in any product, we're always going to work on improving the reliability. And what Frontier Power unlocks, Jeff, and kind of the thing for us that opened the door was like when you look at how we designed and dented, right, so you take this flexible battery module, this low ability to control each module with a controlled platform.
With Indensity, a light bulb went off where I was sitting there talking to Jeff Bornstein, who's on our board, and saying, you know, Indensity is like an aircraft engine. Indensity is like an aeroderivative gas turbine. We can swap out modules as you have to and maintain main plate performance. What we're going to change with energy storage with Indensity is is we'll guarantee nameplate for the life of the project. There's no more talking about augmentation. It's running it like an industrial asset, like you see with a gas turbine or with an aircraft engine, that you don't do the service while it's on the wing of the plane. You swap it out and keep going. That's what we've designed, and we're excited to bring that to market.
Perfect. Appreciate the thorough response.
Ryan Finks (B Raleigh Securities): Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Hey, Jeff. First, can you talk more broadly about the competitive landscape and maybe any additional color on what customers have been indicating in terms of duration preferences?
Management: Look, I think consistent with what we've said historically, and we see it increasing, is customers continue to need longer duration solutions. Market fundamentals have shifted in many of the markets. You're seeing programs like the NYSERDA bulk storage procurement. You're seeing PJM come out with the reliability backstop. Ofgem's cap and floor program in the UK that we've talked about previously. I mean, markets are recognizing that they need longer duration for grid reliability, as well as to service the demanding load profiles that the increase in data centers is having on the grid. And long duration is the perfect solution for that. Joe already talked about the ability to run one-hour cycles, 12-hour cycles from the same asset. When we look at the erratic use cases of the hyperscalers, being able to ramp up and ramp down within milliseconds and do that many, many times a day I mean, it's an abusive use case, and our battery is specifically engineered to handle that, and we're very excited about the technology and how it's designed to handle that. All of that lends itself to increasing durations and flexible assets, which we've got in the Z3 technology.
And Ryan, what I would just add on top of Nathan's comments is to simplify conversations, we make it sound like you're running one cycle a day, every day, multiplied by day. And that's not how the grid works. That's not how these assets will be utilized. I don't view, you know, Nathan used some words about like a harsh, and that's just the way AI is going to work. Like an inference, like if we all go on our phone right now and type something into an AI engine, you're creating an inference session. You're creating a spike in power demand. You're going to have to do that in milliseconds. The product does that. When you do a large learning on AI, you need power for long periods of time. We're the buffer and the asset that can do both of those things successfully. And the way density is set up, we can do both of those things on the same installation. Why? Because Dawn OS can be parsed out to different parts of the system. So you can run an inference system on one part of it, and a large learning system or long duration on another part of it. It's about flexibility and giving the grid the shock absorber it needs as the power demand changes over time.
And it protects core fossil assets from that variability. It's not just about, hey, we're doing solar plus storage or wind plus storage, it's anything plus storage that gives you frequency regulation. And we've got a product that can do it, that's proving itself every day out in the field, that customers are coming to us. And with Frontier Power, we now have the ability to accelerate those conversations.
Appreciate that. And then maybe a follow-up on that last comment. It sounds like Frontier Power will be key for order conversion. Are there any other gating items that you feel like you've addressed with customers in recent months that should benefit order conversion this year?
Management: Look, I think some of the biggest things that are going to help order conversion are going to be the need for power and doing things faster than we've ever done before. I think, again, showing the operating performance of the product out in the field and then taking use cases from customers and running those use cases and showing that we can meet those use cases, that gets you to those decisions that are going to convert orders. We feel good about the pipeline. We have the relationships we're building on. Nathan talked about Turbinex. I think it's great to be with somebody like Turbinex that comes at this market with the philosophy of bringing aero derivative type technologies to different load cases and partnering with them because you got to remember like, this isn't just like you plug – this isn't building a Lego set, right? You don't just plug things together and there's your power plant. You've got to have a controls architecture underneath and a controls architecture on top of it. And the reason why we're working with people like Turbinex, people like a FlexGen, which we've already talked about, is we can align those controls beforehand and get to power faster. Getting to power faster is what the market and our customers need, and that's what we're building.
Great. I appreciate it, guys.
Management: Thank you.
This concludes the question.
Joe Mastrangelo (Title): Well, you know, thanks everyone for listening today. The question, you know, we look forward to continuing to build a great company. The one thing I'll tell you that won't change about EOS is the dedication of this team to building a great company. We're really excited, obviously, about the Frontier Power Partnership that we're building, the ability for our shareholders to participate in that makes me very excited personally because they've stood by us through trials and tribulations. We've continued to grow the company, continue to improve performance, and continue to build something that we'll often be proud of. So thanks again, everybody. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.