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Broadwind, Inc.

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Quarter 1

Q1 2026 Earnings Call — May 12, 2026

Analyst Justin Clare (Roth Capital Partners): I wanted to start out with Heavy Fab and just wanted to see how you'd frame the conversion of the remaining backlog for Heavy Fab, the $25 million. How do you expect that to convert between Q2 and Q3? And then just wanted to see how you're thinking about the inventory levels for the overall business as you convert the remaining orders for Heavy Fab here, and then what the effect could be on your overall liquidity? Because I'm imagining you may have a lower inventory level as you convert the remaining orders here.

Executive Name (Title): Thanks, Justin. So of the $25 million of backlog, the overwhelming majority of this is tower-related that will be completing out of the Abilene facility here. And that should be very, very ratable over the next two quarters. So, you know, it's probably five months, think of it, you know, one fifth over the next five months, if you will. So I think that you can, you can call that fairly ratable, you know, post close three, I mean, post Q1 here. The other thing I would mention is overall, you know, when we're looking at it, not just inventory balances, but our operating working capital, we have maybe about $10 million of operating working capital associated with our wind business at the end of the quarter. So we expect that that will obviously decrease, but we are expecting that to be partially offset by increases within our gearing and our biz segments as those businesses continue to ramp up here over the balance of the year. So there may be some benefit, but I think it'll be muted.

Analyst Justin Clare (Roth Capital Partners): And then with the sale of Abilene, just wondering how we should think about the overall operating expenses for the business here and how you anticipate that changing as you exit that wind tower business. And then any other actions we should be looking for in terms of things that you may be looking to do to optimize the business as you shift to a focus on power generation and critical infrastructure?

Executive Name (Title): Well, yeah, we do have obviously the operating expenses associated with that facility will go away as we exit the facility. I don't think that their cost structure is significantly different than what we have within the other business units. So we shouldn't see any consolidated impact there. In terms of other costs that we're looking at, we're looking at all of our costs and trying to optimize that in light of this transaction going forward.

Analyst Justin Clare (Roth Capital Partners): And then maybe just one more, you know, you had indicated natural gas content drove order growth for industrial solutions and gearing. I'm wondering if you could talk about the opportunity for Broadwind to expand, you know, content per turbine or wallet share within the nat gas end market. And then also, I guess, what you're seeing in terms of order size or project scope and how that's trending.

Executive Name (Title): Thanks, Justin. This is Eric. Well, I will tell you that we are engaged with a couple different producers of gas turbines, primarily the ones that are in the utility scale. We're engaged right now with four of the top ten right now. Of course, we do have some concentration on a couple of those. As far as content, the content for industrial solutions is broad, as we discussed before. We tend to support those installations on what's called not the hot gas path, but surrounding the hot gas path. So we continue to invest in capabilities to grow, share within that product set. So I think we are growing within our primary customer and another three on top of that. We're also growing content from industrial solutions kind of beyond what we traditionally do by taking more manufacturing on ourselves. With regard to gearing, we do reduction gearing, and we're looking at some other components within the natural gas turbine, but it will be limited primarily to that reduction gearing that we discussed before because that's primarily what these turbines need from us as far as precision machine gearing.

Analyst Eric Stein (Craig Hallam): So obviously you're focusing here. You've been investing in gearing and industrial solutions for some time. Curious, could you update us on, you've got really strong backlog in both segments. Update us on how you would expect that backlog to flow in both businesses, whether that has changed or not. improved your ability to execute on that and then just what that implies over the next, say, 12 to 18 months?

Executive Name (Title): Sure. Thanks, Eric. I think what we're seeing is we think that Q1 is probably the low watermark for our revenues for both of those segments. We do expect these revenues to ramp up. You know, I don't think we can take our order run rate and extrapolate that to mean what we're going to book in terms of revenue, because we are probably booking further into the future than we have in the past. But I think, just suffice to say, I think we can expect a steady, ratable growth for the balance of this year. And we are, I should add, that we are booking into 27, and actually a little bit into 28 now. That's depending on when the customers want the product, not depending on our capability to deliver it to when the customers want it. They are looking further out. A couple of our customers are booked literally to the end of the decade. And so we have some advance notice of some of their products. They want to secure a capacity now instead of waiting.

Analyst Eric Stein (Craig Hallam): So I don't want to put words in your mouth, but you could, it sounds like you could execute on this backlog in both segments, you know, perhaps over the next 12 or so months. But in some cases, as you said, it has to do when the customers want to that production and that that would potentially be the limiting factor correct now which also means there's more capacity we have to fill in the interim.

Executive Name (Title): Yep, yep, okay got it. I mean, is it something where you're able to disclose kind of what your, you know, the percentage and it sounds like it would be more to industrial solutions when you're talking about booking further out, but are you able to kind of give a high-level view of, say, what in that backlog, what is kind of earmarked for 26 versus 27 and 28?

Executive Name (Title): We could probably provide that on the next call. We could provide some color there. At this point, I would say it's primarily 27. Anything that's not in this year would be 27. We're just starting to touch 2028, but we can add some color to that maybe on the next call for sure. You are correct. The customer that is pushing some or requesting some 2028 is due dates, delivery dates would be out of the industrial solution segment, not so much out of gearing.

Analyst Eric Stein (Craig Hallam): Okay. Got it. And then could you just talk a little bit about gearing? You mentioned some positive trends in oil and gas, and certainly, you know, you are hearing just, I mean, it's a distant memory, but early in the year, gas prices, or I'm sorry, oil prices pretty depressed. and you're hearing people start to talk about that that's really weighed on their oil and gas business and that it really has not picked up, you know, even with oil price appreciation given geopolitical factors. So maybe talk about that. I mean, is that something that you're kind of concerned about or on the lookout for, or is there a reason that gearing would be a little bit insulated from what some others are seeing?

Executive Name (Title): Well, oil and gas gearing, as you know, has been at a low for, shoot, six or seven quarters now. And it's because of a couple of things. One is the customers are being more frugal with their capital. Their rigs are a lot more productive, so they don't need to add rigs to add output. However, what's going on now is we have customers that are putting some of their old rigs back to work and replacing some components within their existing rigs. What we're seeing is what I would call quick-turn domestic supply for our customers as they put some of their old equipment back to work.

Analyst Eric Stein (Craig Hallam): Got it. So, I mean, maybe is this a possibility that that actually – I mean, you are seeing some improvement there. As you said, low levels, but you're seeing some improvement there because customers are, in fact, a little bit cautious, but they're trying to get more out of their existing equipment rather than –

Executive Name (Title): Right. That's correct. So the rig count in the U.S. remains down. The customers aren't really putting new rigs back to work. There's been a couple over the last couple weeks that have been redeployed. But where we are seeing the demand is what I would call aftermarket, meaning the customers that have rigs working need to keep those rigs functioning, and they're replacing some of their wear parts. They're gearing wear parts with new components, not new rigs, upgrading existing rigs.

Analyst Eric Stein (Craig Hallam): All right. That's helpful. Last one for me, just, I mean, pretty clear signaling that you aim to use a stronger balance sheet to add to your business. So I'm curious, maybe it's too early or maybe you just can't talk about some specific thoughts, but just curious when you look at your platform, what are some areas where you potentially could fill in?

Executive Name (Title): Well, of course, we have been pretty open about wanting to grow inorganically. We're going to use both those platforms, gearing and industrial solutions as platforms to grow. We like precision machining with exposure to defense and aerospace. We already have some exposure to power generation. If we can find something in power generation that would make sense, we'd certainly like to bolt that on. We also like grid hardening. I think in terms of transmission distribution, a lot of the grid in the U.S. is quite old and in need of upgrade, and we think there's a position for us to take to support that upgrade.

Analyst Amit Dayal (HC Wainwright): Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. So it looks like, you know, you have a pretty clear strategy in front of you with the new segments you're focused on. In that context, what should we expect EBITDA margins to sort of come through maybe over the next 12 to 18 months as you sort of clean up the businesses you're exiting and focus on these new segments?

Executive Name (Title): Sure. Yeah, I'll take that one. Thanks, Mitt. So I would say within our gearing segment, we should expect margins to continue to improve. For them, it's really about volume and operating leverage. They have a big fixed cost structure, and the more revenue that we can produce out of that plant, the more profitable the overall plant is. So we should see that continue to improve radically. In terms of our biz, we should see our mix normalized. The last two quarters, I think we've got a very strong mix of products sold, and we expect that to normalize, I should say, over the balance of the year. Although revenue going up, but in terms of margins, I think you'll see that normalized a little bit over the balance of the year.

Analyst Amit Dayal (HC Wainwright): And then, you know, we've spoken about this, guys, you know, one-on-one in prior calls, but, you know, with the fabrication now sort of out of the way, is there a potential rebranding coming for the company overall?

Executive Name (Title): Yeah, the question really is we don't know yet. There's certain of our divisions are already operating with different names, Bradford Gear, which we would not rebrand. But the overall company, we're thinking about it. I would stay tuned on that. The word Broadwind has wind in it, but there's a whole lot more that Broadwind means to many people than just a wind company. So stay tuned. We've thought about it. We're considering it, but no decision at this point.

Analyst Amit Dayal (HC Wainwright): Understood. And then just last one, on the defense side, who are the customers on the defense side, Eric?

Executive Name (Title): Some of them, well, there's... Oh, what kind of a question? Just to get a sense of...

Executive Name (Title): Yeah, what I would say is some of them don't want us to disclose their name, but let's say there are parts for weapon systems, there's parts for the naval systems, and there's parts for helicopters.

Analyst Amit Dayal (HC Wainwright): Okay, thank you. And that's all I have, guys. I'll take my other questions offline. Thank you.

Executive Name (Title): Yeah, thanks, everyone, for listening today. We're on the move. We're excited to execute our strategy, so stay tuned on that. We look forward to speaking with you again after Q2 to discuss your results. Have a great day, everyone. This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines

at this time, and we thank you for your participation.

Quarter 2

Q4 2025 Earnings Call — March 11, 2026

Analyst Eric Stein (Craig Hallam): Good morning, Eric. Good morning. So I know gearing and industrial solutions backlog up 2x or more year over year. You did mention your expectations for revenue for industrial solutions in 2026. I'm curious if you could just talk about gearing a little bit. I know that, I mean, obviously the demand is there, but the quarter was limited by utilization. So just curious, I mean, maybe thoughts on that, you know, steps you need to do to get through that and what 2026 growth might look like in gearing throughout the year.

Executive: Sure. Yeah. So, you know, as you mentioned, our backlog is about double where we from where we enter 2025 with. So we are expecting significant growth within that segment in terms of revenue, for sure. Double digit growth can be relied on there. You know, we're entering with a much stronger backlog. So it's about execution versus commercial success this year.

Analyst: I mean, on execution, can you talk about that a little bit? I mean, so this is not limited by timing of when customers want these components. It's more about you driving higher throughput or just any details about kind of how the year ended and why 2026 may be different or may be limited at the start or anything along those lines.

Executive: Well, I can add a little bit. We've got a lot more visibility. This is Eric. With the backlog that we have, we are working towards the customers' requested dates, which are spread out throughout the year. So I'd say there's a ramp up going to happen in Q1 with steady revenue in two, three, and four. Again, much visibility for the full year. Some of our backlog is into 2027, but most of it's 2026, if that helps you.

Analyst: Yeah, no, that is helpful. Okay, maybe, I mean, after selling Manitowoc, you know, balance sheets in solid shape, you talked about redeploying it to different areas. That includes bolt-ons and some new capabilities. I mean, what, you know, maybe it's hard to share, but if there's anything you can share about areas, you know, that you think need added to, whether organic or inorganic.

Executive: Well, we're definitely focused on power generation and critical infrastructure in all of our divisions. And our M&A search is in those areas, especially with grid or power generation. I think rendering a super cycle for power generation and grid both, it's going to last at least 10 years. And that's where my focus is, my targets are, in M&A. Also for organic growth, both in BIS, which is obviously power generation, and in BIS's industrial solutions. and in gearing with power generation in these turbines that are, I would call mid-range, which are 100 megawatts and less.

Analyst: Got it. And maybe, I mean, so we, but these are not, I mean, I guess bolt-on certainly implies that these are not necessarily significant acquisitions, but more about adding capabilities, whether it's a new product line, new manufacturing footprint, that sort of thing?

Executive: Yeah. So to that extent, they would be both on acquisitions to our existing platforms. Yes.

Analyst: Okay. All right. Thank you very much.

Executive: Thank you.

Analyst Justin Clare (Roth Capital Partners): Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking our questions here. Hey, Jeff. So, hey, I wanted to just start out on the capacity outlook for industrial solutions. So, you mentioned that you're expanding the capacity there, I think, by 30% to accommodate future growth. So just wondering with that added capacity, how much potential revenue might be supported, you know, for the industrial solution segment when it's fully utilized? And then if you could speak to how you anticipate utilization increasing over time here.

Executive: Sure. Just for clarification, our footprint is increasing 30%. But our capacity, we've already doubled it through staffing and equipment. So that floor space is just over and above that. So I think we can easily double our revenue. If not, maybe 2.2 times more than 2025 revenue in our existing facility before we end up having capacity constraints. We're right now only operating at one shift, so we can add another shift if necessary. So I think we could certainly get into the 70 million range revenue within our existing facility.

Analyst: Okay. And any sense for the timing in which you might be able to achieve that level of revenue given the visibility you have into demand and the discussions that you're having with your customers?

Executive: Well, the growth in the combined cycle, natural gas, utility scale, natural gas turbines, which we serve in that market, is really, really strong. Primary customer, one of our primary customers, our primary customer, GE, says their orders increased 77% in 2025 alone. So I expect that the demand will be there from our primary customer and others all the way through 2030. So with customer indications, I think we've got a real strong chance of hitting that revenue number over the next several years.

Analyst: Got it. Okay. That's helpful. And then maybe shifting over to the heavy fab business here. So the backlog was down in Q4, but that partly reflects the Manitowoc divestiture. Just wondering if you could speak to the, you know, underlying demand trends that you're seeing, the visibility you have, and maybe, you know, the timing for backlog conversion and what you're expecting in terms of the cadence in orders in terms of, you know, the timing of bookings relative to when revenue would be recognized?

Executive: Sure. As has been the practice in the market for some time now, we tend to get our customers tend to release orders about six months or so in advance of their production needs. We've got good visibility for towers. and adapters into Q3 2026. And customers have indicated that that level of volume should continue through the remainder of 2026 and into 2027.

Executive: Yeah. Just to add to that, Justin, you asked about converting backlog. We see this as a radical conversion consistent through 2026. So we're not seeing any really spikiness in terms of revenue. It should be pretty radical over the, you know, the four quarters of 26.

Analyst: Okay, got it. That's helpful. Thank you.

Executive: Thanks, Justin.

Analyst Amit Dayal (HC Wainwright): Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. Eric, with respect to sort of the, you know, 20% roughly level of organic revenue growth you are guiding for, with the kind of visibility you have right now and some of the macro conditions, I mean, they look favorable. Do you think this is a level of growth you can maintain for the next few years at a minimum?

Executive: Well, the markets that we're growing into have CAGRs of about 6 plus percent year over year, but they're in great demand. Cycles that we're in On the products that we're in, such as natural gas turbines in medium and high capacity, the growth is beyond that category that I mentioned to you. So I think we can, those two divisions, achieve that kind of growth rate going forward over the next several years, really through 2030, which is as far as we can see out now.

Analyst: Okay, understood. And then, you know, the $6 million follow-on order question, is this with just one customer and then adjacent to that, are there other opportunities similar to this that you may be pursuing during the pipeline but not in the backlog?

Executive: Sure. Again, this is the power generation market, which we're really excited about. That's the market that we're attacking because we have the capital equipment in place. We've got the certifications in place. We've got the customer relationships in place. in place now. That is one customer that we're talking to with regard to that particular order, but we're talking to several others in that space.

Analyst: Okay. And, you know, just given sort of the recent, you know, vulnerability around events taking place in the Middle East and your exposure to the oil and gas space, are you seeing a little bit more inquiries, et cetera, or activity from that segment right now?

Executive: We are. Several of our customers, now the orders aren't huge like they were several years ago, but I would call them substantive, and it's multiple customers. So I think what they're doing is hedging their bets, if you will, that A, there could be a disruption in their supply, which sometimes comes from overseas, but their demand, because the price of oil is an indicator of demand in the U.S., and our customers are in the fracking area. and drilling US-based space.

Analyst: Okay. So that's all I have, guys. I'll take my other questions offline. Thank you.

Executive: Thank you.

Executive: We have reached the end of the question and answer session. I'd now like to turn the call back over to Eric Blashford for closing comments.

Executive: Yeah, thanks, everyone, for being on the call today and your interest in our company. We look forward to coming to you again at the end of Q1 to talk about our results. Thank you. This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines

at this time, and we thank you for your participation.